Of all three Italian world boxing champs to retire undefeated, which is greatest?

Irish blood English heart as they say!

 

The Irish punch above their weight at many sports - check the rugby team.

 

true, but in that instance probably more to do with the english losing... at games they deliberately invented so that they would win something.

this is the english way, sadly.

 

Who are the Italians around 480 BC?

 

• The Italians of Australia are largely from NE Italy from Venice all the way to the border villages with the Slavs
• The Italians of America are largely from the Kingdom of the two Sicilies [Mainland Sicily and South Italy]

 

What about the Gauls? Sicels? Elymi? Sicani? Greeks?

Do you consider Italian the tongue [that includes SouthA merica and Vlach East Europeans] or the ancient people of modern Italy?

Latins were a small group [possibly migrant tribe] at that time, Gauls had a longer established origin in Northern Italy, Greeks were the big elephant in Italy back in that era.

The war between the intrusive Punics coming out of Palermo and their allies vs the Republic out of Rome is what started weakening the Greek presence in ancient Italy, even after the Punic wars the Greeks remained an important element in Southern Italy and Eastern Sicily until the Germanic invasions changed Italy forever, starts with the Goths and Vandals ending with the Lombardi German tribes, imposing themselves as the Tax collecting class on all Italian peasantry. In the South Greek was present in Eastern Sicily for Two Thousand years, up until the Aragonese era.

 

I'm sorry, I was really trying to figure out where the people who were called italians back then came from. Geographically.

Euthymos of Locri, which is considerably south from Old Latium, was called Euthymos the Italian. I don't really know the details of the tribes or even the Romano-Latin Alliance myself. I used to think of ancient Italians as those from Old Latium but in his day Euthymos was call Italian, which means I don't really know who them old Italians was.

 

I'd hear your answer to the above as well.

 

The thing about Neopolitans they were [temporary] called Sicilian because the Kingdom of Two Sicilies, was ruled from Palermo then Naples.

Hollywood also taught the whole world that Palermo is Italy, so now outsiders connect Italy to what Hollywood taught them, so an Italian is technically a Sicilian American and many Sicilian Americans will even point out that the European Italian is not a "Genuine Italian"...Good stuff, only in America