Of course mayweather took the fight, why? because

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Anglosaxon, May 30, 2013.


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  1. oldtimer

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    I don't see how anybody in their right mind can **** on the merits of this fight. Big credit needs to go to both camps for making this happen. In terms of money, fan interest and credibility there is just no better opponent available for Floyd right now.
    This could easily be Floyd's toughest opponent since Oscar.
     
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  2. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    The reasons were stated and you didn't manage to repudiate those reasons.

    How can you justify it outside of money and fanbase? boxing ability it's a complete mismatch and sadly I think it will ultimately harm boxing, it will be hyped so much it will be a flagship fight, and it will end up like mayweather Guerrro and bore the hell out of people because Alvarez has no ability to beat or entertain against Mayweather.
     
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  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    and people will fawn all over Mayweather when the inevitable shut out takes place :barf:barf:barf
     
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  4. oldtimer

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    You may well be right, and I would expect Floyd to take this with a fairly comfortable points victory.
    Having said that though, I believe that Canelo's skills and speed are being somewhat understated by many posting here. If he can attack Floyd aggressively in the first half of the fight he will certainly have a chance of touching him a few times, and it is not unthinkable that he could hurt him much like Mosely did.

    To be fair, Floyd is a pfp atg fighter who likely dominates anybody within his obtainable weight classes right now. Canelo has as good a chance as anybody to be competative right now. I rate him higher then Cotto, who gave Floyd a good fight. He deserves his shot.
     
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  5. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Cotto is proven at world level and was heavily declining when he fought Mayweather. Alvarez hasn't done much, the Trout win was dubious. Mosely was fairly inactive against May aside from round 2, but he has a lot more handspeed and experience that led to that chance. I don't see Alvarez having the experience, speed, footwork or skill to land on Mayweather and I certainly don't think he has earned his chance, it's an easy fight with massive sale value and that's why it's made.
     
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  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it wont harm boxing - boxing isnt mainstream anyway - and there are no bigger fighters than floyd around that can sell the sport

    there just isnt anyone around who has the credentials to fight him
     
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  7. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    The TS said that Pacquiao is still the best option for Floyd. Lmao! Isn't Pacquiao dead? Lmao
     
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  8. BUMPY KNUCKLES

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    The big difference between Marquez and Canelo is about 25lbs!

    For what it's worth I think Canelo is a tad faster than Marquez (of the Floyd fight) but you have a point, normally speed is necessary to compete with Floyd but in this case the natural weight Canelo holds over Mayweather is going to nulify Mayweathers advantage in my opinion. Canelo's shots will effect Mayweather too, even grazing blows, Marquez didn't have the power to trouble Floyd and he was intimidated by Floyds speed and size.

    What can Mayweather do against Canelo but throw right hands? He won't be able to push him back like he did against Ortiz or Mosley (Ortiz easily flustered, Mosley old and the same size as Floyd). Mayweather has declined since the ODLH fight and he has less in the tank each time he fights, I see this as a competitive fight that Canelo could win.

    This will not be like Guerrero, Canelo is stronger, younger and faster than the ghost, he also is generally just a better operator; better range gauge, can counter punch, doesn't take silly punishment.
     
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  9. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Hi *****, I know you won't understand boxing,but Pac was Ko'ed yes, it happens to a lot of great fighters. I guess when Rahman Ko'ed Lewis, Lewis was dead and didn't deserve to fight anyone again.....

    The fact remains Pac has the skillset that Floyds never faced, not only that Floyd avoided him for years and it was a much bigger fight than this one which rather shows that Floyd was scared as shown anyway in the rant video he made about his health.

    I think it's funny how so few people understand boxing on a boxing forum and dismiss Pac because of a hail mary that landed flush and as he was falling into it, but on here I shouldn't be surprised.
     
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  10. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    I wasn't really using Marqueerz as an example as a whole, more of an example of one common attribute.

    I don't think the weight will make much difference as Mayweather has faced hard punches, just not explosive hard punchers. A punch is always much more devastating when not seen, Canelo doesnt have the explosive power nor speed to trouble Mayweather.

    Pac looked tiny against margo, and yes he was hurt in that fight but he fights in a manner where he will be hit, Floyd has the attributes to fight someone with moderate pace and much much bigger, his style means he won't get caught like Pac was against Margo, and if he were he would shake it off like Pac did and probably not be hit again at all.
     
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  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Pacquiao got sparked by a guy that Floyd handled with ease. This is the best fight out there, period.

    Deal with it.
     
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  13. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    You mean fat version of Marqueerz who jumped 2 weight classes?

    Btw Mayweather got outboxed and beaten by a guy Hatton Ko'ed with a bodyshot, deal with it.
     
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  14. Bulletproof

    Bulletproof Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What guy is this? The last time I checked, and hold on I'm doing so again, ok I was right, Floyd is 44-0.. Deal with that clown.. Ease up on the roids..
     
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  15. BUMPY KNUCKLES

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    Canelo is significantly faster than Margarito and isn't so slow like Guerrero was that he won't land a punch. And with the weight advantage he holds, he certainly will have the power to bother Mayweather.
     
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