Officail CALZAGHE VS HOPKINS POLL

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  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    WHO wins this fight and why?

    LEts keep this one clean PEOPLE

    oh yeah and trolls post something usefull or STFU

    :good

    hope to see some excellent posts
     
  2. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i picked JC cuz he's my favorite fighter i just think he's to active and will force nard to fight at a pace he's not usefull. i think Nard will gett a little dirty and jc will respond. jc will stop him by the 11th round
     
  3. 1-Ton

    1-Ton Walking in the Light Full Member

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    Calzaghe is too dynamic, and Hopkins is too old. Calzaghe by UD, barring a robbery by the judges.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I voted BHop because though i think Calzaghe should be the favorite, i want the poll to show some balance.

    Bhop is very good at setting the pace and countering. Stylewise BHop is a nightmare for joe but I think that at Hopkins' old age of 43 he will be too tentative and lose rounds even if he doesn't get hit cleanly. On the other hand, Calzaghe doesn't fade in the late rounds which is something that Hopkins likes to take advantage of usually but wont be able to this time.
     
  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    oh so if joe beats NARD it's because of age now?

    sorry to break it to you anytime these 2 would of fought JC owns his ass.

    see when nard first started out he was vicious ...HHMM just like HAGLER was in his later career. nard went after his guy and went to war thats how he earned the name EXacutioner. he took his guy out. remeber JOE lipsee.

    if they fight now joes style won't alow NARD to fight with his conservative style he has now. he will be forced to revert to sluging it out or lose every round due to out put and nard got to much pride for that. so he will reluctantly go all out. wich will play in to JC hands and game plan also jc is not just quick bu also does not get hit alot as he seem to have a natural radar not on RJJ or willie peps level but it's still great.

    and if you want to go for a younger version of NARD vs a younger JC then you also have to include JC hand not being as bad there for his power would be that much better there for a young nard would be trading with younger stronger harder hitting Joe risking a possible ko loss.

    and if you want to go with a supose nard that beat TITo then you have a prime jc who always keep raising his game as the compition gets better . take a look at how JC kept elavating his game in the kessler fight( now that wasn't a prime jc that was him on the decline). sorry but jc just beats hopkins period any time anywhere.

    this is why some peopl think he can beat hagler .by the way the young hagler fights like an old hopkins
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    this was from another thread where i explained my reason as to why i think JC would actually beat B-HOP at any time in there careers. it was a poll of JC vs HAgler
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    it certainly is a factor.

    He's gonna be 43 in less than 2 weeks

    it retrospect (after the fight) itll be easier to judge wether Calzaghe would beat Hopkins in his prime.
     
  7. dan-b

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    First of all, well said.

    I'm going for Hopkins by a close UD. I think people have been a little too quick to write him off, forgetting how good he is at making people pay for their mistakes. Calzaghe's work rate is admirable but he wastes punches at the best of times so I see him wasting even more on someone as wiley as Hopkins.

    I can't see any knockdowns either way & there will be rounds that are very close & open to interpretation. A lot will depend on whether the judges favour Calzaghe's aggression & work rate or Hopkins' quality & ring craft.

    In closing I think people are being a little too dismissive of Hopkins' own work rate. If you look at compubox stats he still throws enough to be regarded as having a good work rate & if he can make Calzaghe pay for his own defensive flaws, expect Hopkins to emerge triumphant.
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    great post i can see why your picking B-HOP :good

    and i certainly wouldn't rule out a B-hop win only a fool would think he has no chance
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Not to mention Hopkins is the master of getting people to fight his fight. Calzaghe's workrate will drop against hopkins guaranteed.
    Still a pick em fight IMO.
     
  10. pijo

    pijo Feed the Pope Full Member

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    I'm going calzaghe UD.
    I think Bhop will use some dirty tactics and take a few early rounds but Joe will work him out and dominate from there.
     
  11. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    B-Hop says **** EVERYONE THAT DOUBTS HIM BECAUSE OF HIS AGE. That's not coming from me - but from him.

    B-Hop can not and will not lose to a White Guy, who's South Paw - those are not my words either.

    B-Hop has shown over his career that he OWNS South Paws. If you don't believe me - do your research. He wins this fight the same way he wins most fight - punch and smoother. If he hits you and you can't hit him back - he wins.

    Unlike most of his fights - I believe he'll actually fight in this one and make it very exciting.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thing is, Calzaghe could cut his output in half and still throw twice as many punches as Hopkins, and still has more handspeed. Hopkins doesn't hit hard enough to KO Joe, and he's not active enough to win rounds. I think Calzaghe wins this clearly.
     
  13. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins. For all the reasons given by others already, and because the guy knows how to win, whether it looks pretty or not. But also because this is one of the premier US fighters fighting in America in what might be his last big fight. Calzaghe will have to batter him up and down for 12 rounds to get a decision here. I don't see that happening.
     
  14. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a few years ago Hopkins takes this now i have to go with Joe 115-113 UD
     
  15. coronacards

    coronacards Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BHOP will shock JC with his master boxing, rough tactics that will annoy JC, and with his defense.

    JC is a very good fighter....however, the holes in his fight game are tailor-made for BHOP.

    JC loves to open up and throw combinations. As soon as he becomes wild (which he does sometimes) and throws looping shots, BHOP will sting him with that straight right hand.

    BHOP will use that straight right as he did against Tarver as a leading shot (in lieu of using the left jab), and will keep JC off balance.

    JC loves to fight moving forward. BHOP loves counter punching. JC relies on his power and handspeed to tire and frustrate his opponents. BHOP has a chin of iron, and a will that cannot be broken.

    In the end, unless BHOP gets REALLY old overnight haha (I know, he's old already), BHOP's pure skill and experience against top competition will carry him to a UD.