I'm a massive Adamek fan but I don't think you're doing his favours comparing him to Holyfield. When Holyfield was the cruiser champ he was the best fighter p4p in the world according to many experts. And he won the heavyweight title many times on top of that. Adamek just became an elite champ late last year, when he beat Cunningham for the IBF and Ring mag titles. Yes, his resume is looking VERY impressive - Briggs twice (for WBC 175 title), Bell, Cunningham, Banks. He's one of boxing's true warriors, and becoming an accomplished champion in his own right. If he beats Hopkins, that extends a brilliant run as cruiserweight champ, makes him a "pound for pounder", and puts him on a bigger stage. He could then keep defending the cruiser title. Dawson would probably come to him, and he could beat Dawson at catchweight or 200-pounds. Or he could go heavyweight, when one of the smaller fighters becomes champ (hopefully DAVID HAYE).
I also dont think that my brain is fully working. People use they brain only in few %. I am not an exception in that :hi: You are right. But if You add Holyfield's HW achievements to his CW's ones, then I may count Rocky's achievements in HW aswell. Marciano weight during his career less than 190 pounds, so he can be also recognized as a cruiser. And in my opinion Marciano>Holyfield (CW). And to correct: I never said that Adamek is better CW than Holy, I only said that he is on the right way to become one of the CW biggest legends. Maybe the biggest, it depends on future. Maybe I wrote too fast that beating Golota and Bhop would make him biggest CW. But he has got still few years of boxing and everything is possible (HW champ, CW domination, or none of these if he loses).
Im not comparing him to Holyfield, because Holyfield is (in my opinion) a HW figter. But when You say Holy is still CW, then James Toney is a middleweight and Guillermo Jones is a welterweight... It sound funny. To sum up Holyfield is a HW, and whats more he is probably still best CW of all time (5 title defences, undisputted champ). I dont compare in any way this what did Holy in HW to this what Adamek achieved.
Age and reflex. If Hopkins takes the fight he thinks he can over come hole in the other man's defense or offense. I think age and reflex will make Hopkins lose...but then I thought that about Pavilc. Too bad Jones still don't want anything to do with Hopkins, or as Hopkins said, Jones can't fill a stadium any more....from the guy who couldnt' fill a telephone booth...but true.
I think Adamek's considerably better than Pavlik, and this is at Adamek's weight, not Hopkins'. If it's on: Adamek - Beat The Bore! Lose, and it's a disaster. Win, and you have the big stage and can pick your opponents and get good TV money. If Ademak wins, he could perhaps entice Dawson up to cruiser or catchweight and this time Adamek might catch up faster and keep him down. Hopkins no doubt wants to keep moving, so that damek can't set his feet and can't punch from a proper base of balance. But Adamek made adjustments vs the quick/talented Cunningham, and I believe in the Pole's abilities.
Awesome! I hope the fight does happen. You guys sure its official? I dont see it anywhere else Id rather see hops fight for the cruiserweight title than dawson or roy jones. Its better for his legacy
I don't like this match up with Golota at all, partly because Adamek is reducing his worldwide status to a local fight and partly the timing (before Hopkins and possibly Cunningham) is horrible. Adamek will move and school Golota from everywhere, as Golota's speed and legs are shot, however, no one has any serious idea of what will happen if Golota manages to tag him. It could be lights out and the end for any future mega fights, all because of local bragging rights and relative chump change. Yes, Adamek's brilliant chin is good insurance against this scenerio, but have you ever seen the difference in width between Adamek's forarms and Golota's? Another concern is with Adamek yo-yo ing his weight up and down to make these two fights. I say he should fight Cunningham, Hopkins and (win or lose) move up to HW. Thumbs down to Duva for her shitty plan.
Adamek will take this. People here seem to think that Hopkins will forever continue beating everyone he faces. Time catches up with us all, Hopkins is no exception. On top of that going in against a young, still hungry, bigger, harder hitting, iron chinned, fearless, quick, skilled, smart warrior does not help Hopkins in any way.
Yeah i feel you about this unnecessary risk that adamek takes in golota fight , however , when i can imagine golota catching adamek with a few big shots during the fight i cant see him finisching the job ,partly becuz adamek will be much faster on his feet so he can simply ride a bike and run from an old , Moving in slow-mo Andrew and partly becuz golota s never been the guy to finisch the job when its time for it , just to mention half-dead bowe in 2nd fight or Ruiz in the first rounds, But everything can happen and thats the 2nd reason why i hate this fight- unnecessary risk ,although you shouldnt blame duva for this , this fight is Ziggy's idea from start to d end , and he's the guy who should be shot for it, i know Its all about money but i must say i am a bit dissapointed on adamek too, mainly for catching every bone they throw to him , it seems like he has nothing to say about his fights cuz if i remember correctly few months ago he was saying that golota fight would never happen Btw adamek says that he wont add up any weight for golota fight, he'll be around 97 kg same as he is between the cruiser bouts
Hopkins shocked me with his win over Pavlik , But I am going to predict against him again and go with Adamek. Adamek is younger, has been more active, and also a much physically stronger oponnent than anyone Hopkins has faced in a while.
You 're right about the critics as you're one of them. Tarver was drained and has no where near the power or punch resistance of a cruiserweight adamek. plus tomasz is a short throwing puncher, not a tall lanky counter puncher like tarver, and well kelly is a middle. Anyone who thinks ol' hops will have a comfy win over tomasz is not a real boxing afficinado, but this is a chat room, so............. :roll:
The way I see it, the chances for this fight have not improved that much, since it should have happened in July already. BHop didn't really want the fight at first and there is no indication he has changed his mind, according to reports. Maybe BHop is having second thoughts, not being able to get anything better for the entire year and that got people talking. The fights that make the most sense for him are Dawson, Kessler, Adamek and Roy, all of them were available this year. Roy is off bc the timing is bad now, maybe in 2010. BHop may feel unconfortable about steppin in the ring against the other three I feel.
The last time, Adamek-Hopkins had a tentative date that was too close to the original Marquez-Mayweather fight. Schaefer said he didn't think HBO were fully behind the fight (Adamek-Hopkins), back then.