OFFICIAL: Dillian Whyte DUCKED Usyk & Ortiz to fight WASTEMAN Breazele...

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yes, maybe Whyte did duck Ortiz.

    Maybe he didn't.

    Life goes on though.

    Cheers
     
  3. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Joshua fight still makes the same money in 12 months time, even if, worst case, he lost to Wilder/Fury.

    If he beats Breazeale and becomes mandatory, he profits from the Fury v Joshua fight (after Fury beats Wilder) in step aside money and then gets to fight the winner for all the marbles for even more money than he's just turned down to fight Joshua. It makes perfect sense, both in terms of furthering himself and setting himself up as someone who can't be avoided.
     
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  4. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being realistic, there isn't a single guy out there who really improves his standing, is there? I find it tough to agree with the idea of Dillian Whyte being in a position to duck guys - he's not exactly anyone else's first choice opponent. He has no belt and there is no real benefit to fighting and beating him. Usyk, Ortiz and Povetkin are all aiming higher, as is Whyte.
     
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  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :facepalm: So, let's get this straight @El Chicano

    You are telling me.. Whyte should have fought Ortiz for hardly any money, for no reason, because lets be real here, Whyte wouldn't be gaining anything, Whyte is ranked higher than Ortiz and Ortiz isn't and wasn't mandatory in the WBC.

    Instead of..

    Fighting Breazeale knowing if he wins he is mandatory for the WBC title, Breazeale speaks fluent English and talks some crap so it will probably be much easier to sell and therefore should do a little better on PPV.

    So, in conclusion, Ortiz, nothing at stake, not a lot of money.

    Or

    Breazeale, more money and the chance to fill the WBC mandatory spot.


    And that choice if Whyte makes it is apparently a "duck"?


    You should be banned for your constant trolling.
     
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  6. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh my God, don't tell me we are going to flip this way now .. :risas3:


    No way on earth did Whyte duck Ortiz, no way, never, not having it, Ortiz brings absolutely nothing for Whyte, no money, no ranking improvement if Whyte wins.

    The only thing worth fighting for Whyte is either, a world title, a mandatory spot or money and Ortiz brings none of those three things and never has.
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk hasnt even fought at heavyweight yet and with the WBC ordering him and Breazele to become mandatory for Wilder or Fury he's be mad to look at anyone else no?
    think you'll find more than Whyte avoiding Usyk when he gets going.
     
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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Chicano looks at pro boxing from the view that they're doing it for the fans of something?
     
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  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has made himself look a moron anyway, because by his own logic if Whyte fought Ortiz he would be ducking Usyk and if Whytw fought Usyk he would have been ducking Ortiz.

    It's like AJ, whoever the Brits fight they are always ducking somebody.
     
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  10. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hahaha, I like the idea though of Dillian logging in here after verbally agreeing to fight Breazeale and reading an El Chicano thread and ringing Hearn back and saying..

    "Scrap that Ed, forget the money and mandatory spot, El Chicano wants me to fight Ortiz or Usyk"
     
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  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    This is a potential FOTY.
    Have you guys forgotten Breazeale - Ugonoh?
    This fight will be great.
     
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  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Lol I don't know how else to reply to him.

    Obviously I don't believe Whyte ducked Ortiz or anyone.
     
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  13. MarcelCerdan13

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    Ducked isn’t a fair term, it rarely is. That said, I don’t think Whyte’s particularly confident in his ability to beat Joshua, and views defeating Wilder as the more secure route to a title and eventual most profitable opportunity to fight Joshua. He and Breazeale are in the running for a shot at Wilder, so it makes perfect sense for them to fight. Ortiz had his turn, a win over him would be very meaningful but it’s very high risk and wouldn’t garauntee him a mandatory so why would he take he take it compared to Breazeale. Usyk just makes no sense. Whyte’d just become a stepping stone for a greater fighter coming up and he knows it. The money wouldn’t be quite on the level of a world title fight either. I just wish he’d put a little more respect on Usyk’s name, makes him sound like an idiot.
     
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  14. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah I agree, while I don't rate Breazeale that highly he is seriously game, he is tough, he has heart and he will really give it a go against White and will definitely come to win which should make it a very entertaining fight.

    Breazeale is a big old lump, 6"7, 81 inch reach, he can punch so he could cause Whyte problems if Whyte doesn't turn up correct.

    And yeah Mr L, that Ugonoh fight was superb entertainment, it was madness LOL

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  15. N17

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    Yeah I know, I was saying it tongue in cheek LOL

    I agree with you, to call fighting Breazeale for the WBC mandatory spot a "duck" of Ortiz is a real stretch. The WBC have ordered it, so maybe he should blame the WBC for not ranking Ortiz higher?

    But it's easier for him to blame Whyte, his agenda is clear.. crystal clear.

    Ortiz brings nothing, he can't say "it's more money" because it isn't, he can't say "it's for the mandatory spot" because it wouldn't be.. so there is no real reason for Whyte to fight Ortiz, none whatsoever.

    Whyte has a better resume, higher ranking, higher profile, on the verge of a title shot.. so how can he honestly say not fighting Ortiz is a duck at this moment in time?

    I haven't mentioned Usyk, he hasn't even fought at Heavyweight yet and I didn't know this fight was seriously talked about, it was mentioned but as far as I know there have been no real or genuine offers and I haven't seen many talk about this fight.
     
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