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Flea Man · Nov 21, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

You would not have Donaire in the top 10, but you would have the guy he outclassed in the top 10, who has also went on again to lose? (admittedly at a higher weight)

Also, my P4P lists are based on both accomplishments and potential (80% accomplishments, 20% potential), so I feel Donaire is worth a place in my top 10.

Problem I have with some lists are the high ranking of Calderon - he hasn't looked impressive in his last few fights and certainly looks on the decline.
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Well I go with a fair scheme of oposition and form over the last year or so. Donaire has done little since the terrific win over Vic. I rarely take weight-jumping into account either, it's quality of opposition. I.e Williams win over Kolle-little kudos. Williams thrashing of Wright-:good

robpalmer135 · Nov 23, 2009

P4P Top 25

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Shane Mosley
6. Paul Williams
7. Wladamir Klitscko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Chad Dawson
10. Ivan Calderon
11. Arthur Abraham
12. Nonito Donaire
13. Hozumi Hasegawa
14. Vitali Klitschko
15. David Haye
16. Tomasz Adamck
17. Andre Ward
18. Israel Vasquez
19. Chris John
20. Tim Bradley
21. Rafael Marquez
22. Celestino Caballero
23. Vic Darchinyan
24. Edwin Valero
25. Juan Manuel Lopez

D-MAC · Nov 23, 2009

robpalmer135 said: ↑

P4P Top 25

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Shane Mosley
6. Paul Williams
7. Wladamir Klitscko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Chad Dawson
10. Ivan Calderon
11. Arthur Abraham
12. Ivan Calderon
13. Nonito Donaire
14. Hozumi Hasegawa
15. Vitali Klitschko
16. David Haye
17. Tomasz Adamck
18. Andre Ward
19. Israel Vasquez
20. Chris John
21. Tim Bradley
22. Rafael Marquez
23. Celestino Caballero
24. Vic Darchinyan
25. Edwin Valero
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No's 10 and 12 :think

ryanm8655 · Nov 23, 2009

Are there 2 Ivan Calderon's fighting?

Siren1927 · Nov 23, 2009

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Hopkins
4. Mosley
5. Williams
6. JMM
7. Vitali
8. Adamek
9. Abraham
10. Hasegawa
11. Wlad
12. Haye
13. Calderon
14. Cotto
15. Valero

Flea Man · Nov 23, 2009

kosaros said: ↑

You would not have Donaire in the top 10, but you would have the guy he outclassed in the top 10, who has also went on again to lose? (admittedly at a higher weight)

Also, my P4P lists are based on both accomplishments and potential (80% accomplishments, 20% potential), so I feel Donaire is worth a place in my top 10.

Problem I have with some lists are the high ranking of Calderon - he hasn't looked impressive in his last few fights and certainly looks on the decline.[/quote]

When you consider Mayol just blasted out WBC champ Sosa in two rounds, makes Calderon struggling with him (awkward, tall) not seem as bad.

Setting up unification with Viloria, which would cement him in the top 10. A win over Gonzalez or Joyi then retire=one of the best tiny fighters of all time:deal

EDIT: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DnQhYAjH5w[/ame]

Looks like Mayol likes to headbutt everyone, southpaw head clash or not (the two Calderon fights) Impressive stoppage nonetheless.
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