Official ESB Rankings Poster Nomination Thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lampley, Sep 17, 2007.


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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well OK - here's what I see. The first statement implies a demand that the best have to prove themselves in the hardest sport there is with blood and sweat.

    The second implies that a fighter can show fancy without really being tested and still be rewarded by appreciation and admiration.
     
    McGrain, Sep 19, 2007
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  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I like that too. It seems to work in favor of PBF - why not Calzaghe.
     
    DanePugilist, Sep 19, 2007
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  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The second is like the theory of evolution. We can see it, but cannot prove it, indefinitely.

    The first is like that intelligent design stuff. Making it up as you go along, to suit ones own agenda, abandoning all logic. For example.

    "Joe Calzaghe has fought nobody, he fought Manfredo last time out. Wright KOs him."

    Logically the is nothing about beating Peter Manfredo in devastating fashion that indicates he will lose to Wright.

    However, the impressive fashion in which he performed leaves you only with the possibility of making pro-Calzaghe assumptions.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Sep 19, 2007
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  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Cotto but not Kessler.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Sep 19, 2007
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  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Unbias posters, stick to the facts.
     
    Mind Reader, Sep 19, 2007
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree with you that the above is a ridiculous pick. The difference is I believe that the 1% that makes a great different from the good is proven under fire, that only when you are in the ring with a man who is your equal or better in many categories does the things you are amongst the best at come to the surface - you see? We all knew Lewis had a great jab - but it was when he got in with Tua, a very special fighter, that he was able to put on his masterclass. Roy Jones Junior made a world class athlete look normal when he beat Hopkins and on it goes.

    When you say, "there is no proof that Calzaghe is less than great" you have a point - but only up to another point. We never saw him in there with a guy who would truly test him which means we never found out about his top 1% in heart, character, generalship or technique.

    I can't hand out to him the type of status to Joe that you have. That's because i've never seen him in there with the type of fighters that would truly test him at peak.

    Sure. I would make him a favourite against Winky although I think Wright would have a chance.
     
    McGrain, Sep 19, 2007
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  7. ravtrav

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    :-(
     
    ravtrav, Sep 19, 2007
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  8. mightyd40

    mightyd40 Spartan Full Member

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    well thanks for keeping me in mind anyway.....i still feel like a newbie here sometimes so i guess i will just keep posting and hopefully make a bigger splash with others.
     
    mightyd40, Sep 19, 2007
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  9. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I think there is some confusion between Domingo, and Domngo.
     
    DanePugilist, Sep 19, 2007
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  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    *nods*
     
    DanePugilist, Sep 19, 2007
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  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You would have been right up there had you posted 1,000+ times
     
    brooklyn1550, Sep 19, 2007
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  12. mightyd40

    mightyd40 Spartan Full Member

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    oh yea....i forgot the 1000 post thing haha
     
    mightyd40, Sep 19, 2007
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  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Hurry up and get 49 more posts and I'll create 15-20 aliases to get you on this ranking thing;)
     
    brooklyn1550, Sep 19, 2007
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  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    :lol: - would be ironic if you got yourself out that way.
     
    DanePugilist, Sep 19, 2007
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  15. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Brooklyn, I think it's high time to welcome you and kg to the committee. I'll do a formal count later, but starting tomorrow we'll probably freeze you two guys and try to encourage votes for others.

    More later. ...
     
    Lampley, Sep 19, 2007
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