Official Pavlik VS. Martinez Poll--April 17th

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  1. Pavlik is Champ

    Pavlik is Champ PDub is RUNNING scared Full Member

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    Has sergio ever been hit as hard as pavlik throws? I wonder how hes going to react.
     
  2. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder how Kelly will react to Sergio's speed? Sergio, UD.
     
  3. Pavlik is Champ

    Pavlik is Champ PDub is RUNNING scared Full Member

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    As an amateur and as apro pavlik has dealt with Speedful opponents and has won every time. Hopkins being his only defeat. Martinez on the other hand has never felt power like pavliks. Pavlik knows how to fight speedys, martinez has yet to prove to anyone that he can take a true m.w. punch.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    It is a historical fact that in 2007-2008 I made several posts where I described EXACTLY what an opponent has to do to beat Pavlik. Ironically, the Hopkins/Pavlik fight looked almost exactly like the fights I described. Sergio Martinez is not a LHW, and even if he was, he ain't no BHop.

    Against Pavlik, Martinez cannot effectively uses strategic clinching to slow the pace down. He isn't strong enough, nor is smart enough to know how to move in without getting caught.

    I doubt if Martinez has the power it takes to get Kelly's respect. KP is a guy that does not give a **** about an ass whoopin' if taking one will allow him to bully his opponent back against the ropes or into a corner.

    Martinez has fast hands and feet, but I could name several guys KP beat out who have better defense than Martinez.

    After careful review of Sergio's last 3 fights I no longer beleive he is a difficult opponent for Pav. The guy just has way to many bad habits to do well for more than 3 or 4 rounds.
     
  5. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sergio, is not even a middleweight, nevertheless b/c of his hand speed he can beat Kelly. He is a very different fighter than Hopkins, but is faster than anybody Kelly has ever been in the ring with, and much faster than a prime Hopkins, which is not what Kelly fought.

    He will have to have something on his punches though, if Kelly has no fear at all of his punching power he could press him and knock him out.
     
  6. Pavlik is Champ

    Pavlik is Champ PDub is RUNNING scared Full Member

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    Everyone forgot that Pavlik is a beast. You nasayers will eat your words and Ill be happy to post them after the fight.
     
  7. Pantera2000

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    This is the one reason it is hard for me to go against Pavlik. He is big and strong and should be able to bully Martinez around. It will not be an easy fight though. I still got it at 50/50, but as it gets closer I will probably be leaning more towards Pavlik.
     
  8. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    This may sound unrealistic but I honestly see no reason why Pavlik should lose this fight.
     
  9. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Listen to the guy suffering from multiple personality syndrome here. :lol:
     
  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea You have a point there,I mean JT was way faster then Pavlik,Pavlik broke him down and knocked him out and then in the rematch Kelly outpointed Jermain clearly
     
  11. MAYLO

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    Im sure Cintron has the same power that Pav has in a 1 punch situation BUT, Pav throws alot more than Cintron. So yes, he has been hit that hard IMHO. Can Pavs workrate wear him down though. And can Pav connect enough to wear him down. Hes not going to land as much as PW did against Martinez, hes just too slow but he should land more than Cintron.
     
  12. Hermit

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    Interesting conjecture. Care to back that up somehow? Pavlik is a tad larger than Cintron. Proportionately doesn't count here.
     
  13. MAYLO

    MAYLO Active Member Full Member

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    Ive seen a few Pav fights and never really witnessed a devastating 1 punch ko so i figure hes just a heavy handed fighter who wears his opponents down. Ive witnessed quite a few Cintron bouts and saw him put people to sleep with a single shot. Seeing as how Pavs bigger(but Cintron is a big WW/LHW!) that about evens them out in one punch power. That being said ive never been hit by the two so I guess martinez can let us know on April 18th:yep
     
  14. Mr. HU

    Mr. HU KP vs BHop anniversary Full Member

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    There is no way to prove who's punch is stronger than the next!! Just because you are bigger doesn't mean you are stronger!!
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This post is going to come back to haunt you (pun intended.)