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Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Feb 28, 2008.


  1. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    those were the only 2 exiting parts of the whole fight, too bad he wasn't even a tad more aggressive he could have finished it.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Just sad....:-(
     
  3. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    1. stop blaiming the boring fight on sultan, if he would of pressured klit he would of of gotten ko'd immediately. Its not his fault that he didnt commit suicide and open up with overly aggressive punches and create so many easy holes for klit to land that right hand.

    2. klit could of ended the fight any time he wanted, if he would only of stepped up the tempo and of taken a chance with that 1-2. This was an obvious mismatch from the 2nd round on, sultan posed almost no threat to klit with his telegraphed, curved punches, hes not a power puncher anyway. Vlad wasnt in there with an offensive machine like C Sanders, and he wasnt in any danger of gassing during this jabfest.


    This fight reminds me of May-Baldomir except people would probably rather watch Mayweather do his slick moves than watch a Klit jabfest. Klitchko fights can be entertaining when he does land a big punch, but up until that point they are very boring and tactical, and this fight was that except for the total of 3 right hands the entire fight. Wladimir desearves the criticism hes been getting, the klit fanbase are just to distraught to admit it. This must be the denial phase, next step is accpetance and then recovery.

    Sorry widow, vladimir is no joke but this performance was.
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Wow.

    Thanks for illustrating the huge double standard in this post. Thanks.
     
  5. YOUNG*LORD

    YOUNG*LORD Carlosv1968 is your daddy Full Member

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    He's good but he really lacks the killer insinct...:deal
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gotta agree....that particular post was a double standard. I think it's A double standard though. I don't feel there is a double standard overall with Wlad Klitscho.
     
  7. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    let hear you analyse it, and tear it apart, go ahead you made this thread looking for an arguement anyways.
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mate, you say it's alright that Sultan did **** all, because he would have been Koed. However, Klitschko was wrong to not risk it? Can you not see the double standard here? If the fight was close, then, yeah, I could see what you're saying. However, Ibragimov was getting shut out and still did nothing at all. Wlad didn't need to do a thing. Sultan did.

    It's pretty clear from the reaction to this bout, that too many fans judge boxers on their last fight.
     
  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Brock fight was boring too, until Wlad caught him with the huge hook in the 7th I believe, even the Brewster fight was lame, Wlad was just throwing the jab mostly. I think Wlad is extremely talented and skilled, but he is certainly lacking something, wether it's a strong chin, killer instinct, or just weak mentally, I dont know, but he does look afraid to get hit, I just hope other Heavyweights are good enough to pick up on this and maybe try to exploit Wlads weakness' in the ring.
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually liked the Brock fight. Klitscho was doing a good job of breaking down what Brock was doing and waiting for his opening.

    That's what made this particular fight so infuriating to me. He had broken down Ibragimov's style and his weaknesses by the 4th or 5th round, and he didn't take advantage of it. Honestly, I though Brock was a more dangerous puncher.
     
  11. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    Vlad was in control of the fight not sultan, he had his jab shoved in sultans face the entire fight. Its near impossible for a guy with diminished size to get past that jab without eating a right hand, he knows he stood no chance going toe to toe with him.

    As for Klit he didnt have much risk at all with sultan, like I said before, Sultan doesnt have Sanders reach and power, and Klit wasnt in danger of gassing himself out like in Brewster fight. He could of easily of slipped that right hand after the jab many many more times than he did in the fight. Its just something mentally wasnt or isnt there with him, he has all the skills, the physical tools but something with him is mentally lacking. Its hard for me to blame sultan for the fight when he had very little control over it.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The brock fight was a little lackluster, until Wlad landed that devastating hook, that punch look like his elbow went through his head. The only reason Brock was somewhat known for his power, was because the knockout of the year against Zuri Lawrence, who was already knocked out by 5 or 6 guys, ranging from nobodies to guys like Iggy, Guinn, and Thompson, his record before fighting Brock was like 20-12, the guy had extremely weak chin.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sultan had control over his actions, just not the consequences of them. You cannot let him slide because he didn't act based on fear of being stopped. If Klitscho didn't act based on the same thing, then they should both be held accountable, not just Klitscho.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not the reason I knew him for his power. Brock had decent power. 29-0 with 22 KO's isn't a weak puncher. He was sneaky. I didn't feel it was boring. I thought it was tactical.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Vlad's talent and skills made his fight with Ibragimov very easy, very oneside fight.