Ok, how about a 1973 Foreman vs 1991 Holyfield?

Sorry to pull away from the thread, but what about Frazier-Holyfield? What a barnburner that would be.

 

Already been done but I'll offer my opinion again.

Holyfield doesn't see round 8 against 1968 - FOTC Joe Frazier. I could see him stopping the 1973 Frazier that Foreman KOed, but later in the fight like he did against Tyson the first time.

Joe vs Evander PFP would be a slugfest like Joe's war with Quarry.

 

Foreman by ko inside of 5

 

Yeah I know it's been done before but I wanted FoF's take on the fight. Thanks for your contribution though, as I agree with your post. I like Frazier over Holyfield in a slugfest for the ages.

 

Alot of people pick Foreman by early KO. Its possible, getting hit by George Foreman is like getting hit by a baseball bat but...what if he doesnt end it early?

What`s George Foreman`s plan B?

What if the bell rings for the 6th or 7th round and Evander is still there?

 

Evander by UD
hes chin is too hard/too good and he is too fast

and,whit how gloves there fight ? 6 ? 8 ? 10 ?
im think when Bowe fight with gloves like george,he hit hard like george or maybe harder

 

The '91 George didn't connect dead on. The '73 Foreman would and that's it for Holyfield.

 

If a 42 year old Foreman could hold his own and go the distance with a prime Holyfield, then imagine what a prime Foreman would do to Holyfield.

 

'91 Foreman wasn't inferior in every way to '73 Foreman. Not the overall force but there were definite improvements in defenese and pacing which led to greater stamina. Evander Holyfield isn't getting blown out by anyone. This fight is going past 7 and 8 rounds and that's bad news for young Foreman.

 

:deal Well put.

 

Again I'd pick Evander.

Frazier is great...take nothing away from him. Evander matches him in fitness/conditioning, is very adept at fighting inside and has the chin to take big shots.
Durability? Evander's got that in spades. Recuperative powers? Few can match him. Heart? Again, as good as there has ever been.

Frazier mauled you, broke you down. He outgutted you and took away your heart. He's not outgutting Holyfield or taking away his heart.
Frazier isn't breaking Evander down like he did so many others.

That's a problem for Joe, since he doesn't have mutliple dimensions. He would come straight at Holyfield and do what he does...whether it's working or not.

Holyfield's key punch would be his uppercut. He had a great uppercut inside, and could throw it equally well with the left or right hand. Check out the Cooper fight, where he was nearly tearing Coop's head off with pinpoint uppercuts delivered with power.
Inside, Holyfield would be able to stand hiis ground with Joe. Of course, he'd have to take some serious leather from Joe as well, but he would be prepared and able to do that.
He'd have the sense to hold on if hurt, and he (if he chooses to) could also back off and move around to clear his head.

What would Joe do, if Holyfield starts getting the better of him inside? Well, not a lot. He didn't have the greatest survival instincts I've ever seen.

I think this fight would be fought on the inside. Holyfield would box at first, but would get drawn into a slugfest. Some may think it's crazy, but I think Holyfield would beat Joe at his own game. He performed very well inside against the much bigger Bowe and proved over the years that he is a very capable guy inside.

Ultimately, I think this boils down to Holyfield matching Joe in all of Joe's intangibles, but outmatching him when it comes to offensive and defensive options.

Holyfield...although I don't know whether by points or stoppage.

 

When i was younger i also thought that no1's getting rid of Evander , but then i watched d Bowe trilogy at least 3 times each fight and then George Foreman's more important fights and then d Bert Cooper fight and Foreman stopping Holyfield is d most probable single scenario if 1 is forced 2 bet on such . Maybe not 2 rounds but maybe yes and maybe less but George was more durable than Bert Cooper and if Bert put him down and almost out , George would b able 2 repeat it more than once and i doubt that even a torn glove / wrap would have saved Evander in this 1 .

 

The main problem with Holyfield is that his brand of boxing wasn’t exactly safety first. One way or another he got involved.

After punching holes in your lungs the the younger Foreman specialised in cutting off the ring - a trait which is almost guaranteed to force Evander to stand his ground and respond…and then what? This is the million dollar question.

Foreman used to be imbued with total self-belief. He didn’t think he could be hurt, so in he marched, and for a guy with physical equipment like that it was a lethal state of mind.

The strength of the man is going to be a problem. Ali didn’t try to keep the fight ring centre, plus he ingeniously figured out how to lynch George’s imprudence. Holyfield's stubborn nature is unavoidably going to dig a few ditches, but when he realises it's time for a change he isn’t going to be able to wrestle George like he did Tyson.

Similar problems he had with Bowe are going to be revisited but in a more dangerous, concentrated strain. A way out can’t be discounted, but Ted Spoon feels that the escape route is too narrow to begin to speak of Evander’s chances.

Different to Zaire, George is going to get results, and this will propel him to finish what he starts.

Foreman via early-mid round knockout.

 

Evander doesn't have the wheels to box and stay out of trouble, add to that, Holyfield likes to fight too much not to try and bang with Foreman. This one gets real physical real quick.

I won't say its that early, but Foreman clubs him out of there mid rounds. 6 or 7.

 

Old Foreman was better in some ways than young Foreman. Like I've said many times... when he was younger he was quicker (but never fast) and had more snap on his punches... BUT... as an older fighter he was bigger and stronger (yes stronger), had a better jab, and was a much smarter fighter.