Ok I give in, Usyk is in the GOAT convo

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don’t think he’s the goat H2H but his accomplishments might be goat status. Like Pacquiao he accomplished something that won’t be replicated.

    That being said, if Floyd, Tank or Inoue were the same size as Usyk they’d kick his ass. But yes, Usyk really is one of the goats and arguably the goat at beating up dudes bigger than him. Not sure how many other boxers can beat boxers who have a 10-15% weight advantage over them.

    No one believed Usyk could beat AJ and Fury when he was at cruiser, but he went up and beat the crap outta both of them and almost stopped both. Usyk deserves his flowers.
     
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  2. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    If floyd tank or inoue were the same size as usyk they wouldn't be the same fighters.. because smaller men have assets larger fighters don't , and vice versa.. they'd lose certain attributes... asinine cope type comment.. & twink Davis is a privileged stay at home fighter who not only fight bums but takes it up his own
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bums? Barrios, Pitbull, Ryan Garcia, Frank Martin, Pedraza, Santa Cruz, etc are bums? Get a ****ing grip.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I said when he moved to HW that if he beat AJ and Fury I'd call him the goat.

    So I'm calling him the goat.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then aj and Fury must be criminally overrated
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Give it another 3 years and you won´t be the only one.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield must be the GOAT then for moving up and beating Bowe and Tyson who are better names than Fury and Joshua.

    Uysk is a top 30 P4P fighter of all time but hes not even close to being the GOAT resume wise, people need to stop going over board Usyk hasn't even surpassed Holyfield yet in ATG rankings.
     
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  8. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    Yeah, what Usyk accomplished still needs to be processed over weeks and months. But make no mistake about it, he's the GOAT, or at least fully in the mix.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm glad you have seen the light, ellerbe, and we welcome you with open arms into The Holy Church of Usyk.

    Usyk is indeed the GOAT and I don't just mean the GOAT fighter

    He's the GOAT human being too

    And deep down I don't think anyone, if they're being honest with themselves that is, actually believes otherwise

    I genuinely feel he might well be God in human form or at least one of his angels sent down from heaven. He's literally too good to be true
     
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sigh Serge, I tried to fight it.. but dude achieved the impossible.
     
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  11. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    ellerbe, my man, nice to have normal convos with you now. Respect for recognizing great champions, in all their forms.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Nah Usyk is underrated.
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk talks a lot about his father but never about his mother

    he's defintely not born of a woman especially after beating Fury

    We need an investigation into his birth origins to determine if he's the GOAT. I don't think he's human which disqualifies him.
     
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Hrs definitely on his way there, let's revisit this convo in a couple of years.
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’ve always been one of the most unbiased posters on here but emotions get involved so people dislike me for criticizing their favorite boxers.
     
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