OK - Is Manny Pac Top 15 of All Time?

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? Comfortably

  1. Yes?

    47 vote(s)
    62.7%
  2. No.

    28 vote(s)
    37.3%
  1. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Both lists are subjective and up for debate.

    Neither list has an officially recognized one to reference.

    For some bizarre reason, P4P lists get your soiled panties in a twist and you continue to scream to the heavens that P4P lists are meaningless. It's just hilarious that P4P lists wreak havoc on your mental health.

    And you're just an incompetent sphincter who's angry because I pointed out your inconsistency.

    Let me know if you want me to refer you to a mental health facility.

    :lol:
     
  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lead would be lucky to be as dense as you are. :risas3:

    Look child, just because I think P4P lists are meaningless doesn't mean I think everything that is subjective is the same. Nice attempt to gaslight jackass. But are you really this clueless? Do you even understand how dumb that sounds to suggest?

    "Oh, he doesn't believe in P4P lists, so he must not believe in ANY type of ranking." That's you and how ignorant you come off right now.

    Either you are braindead or you are so up your own ass you cannot let it go. Go fight with someone else and make up sh*t for them you message board bandwagoner.
     
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Such a fair and rationale argument. @turbotime keeps tryna force these comparisons but theyre damn near impossible tbh
     
  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Both lists are subjective and subject to debate. It's just that one list causes your vagina to bleed and you have to continually announce how meaningless something is to you. The irony is that P4P lists DO mean a lot to you and that's why they're such a massive trigger for you. You're like a flat earth nut job, but less intelligent.

    :lol:

    Clearly your brain does not function normally. And then you're angry because you got called out for your inconsistency.

    Hopefully you're not this much of a dumb and useless sphincter in real life, but I've no doubt you are.

    :lol:
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You feel the need to exaggerate my opinion on current P4P because you have no real leg to stand on. Now you just come off as a desperate clown. You're no different then Miniq, MVC, or mismatchhypejob... You're a time wasting child. Get a life Bandwagoner.
     
  6. columbo

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    pacquiao had wins against some great fighters.
    marco barerra
    erik morales
    juan marquez
    oscar dela hoya
    ricky hatton
    shane mosley
    tim bradley
    antonio margarito

    he also won championships in 8 weight classes.

    i mean wowzer! what a career!
     
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  7. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Both lists are subjective. You can value one or the other, but it's a clear lack of consistency.

    Basically, you're a goddamn moron and you're angry that you were called out on it.

    The end.
     
  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    This is from everyone at that time. I've also read the books on him. It can't be a myth on Greb, Dempsey even got dropped in sparring he says, from his own mouth.
     
  9. GGGfans

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    5 Armstrong
    4 Ali
    3 Monzon
    2 Pacquiao
    1 Robinson
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    A nice try.....awful.
     
  11. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich Not a Lobster. Full Member

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    Monzon over guys like Greb, Langford, Walker, Fitzsimmons, Gans, both Leonards, Duran, Moore, Mcfarland, Pep, Louis, etc, etc.

    No disrespect intended but do you mind explaining the reasoning. I haven't seen Monzon rated this high before and I would interested in hearing what I'm not seeing.
     
  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Troll response im guessing. Your top 10?
     
  13. EJDiaZ

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    Yes

    Pac and FMJ are Top 15
     
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  14. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich Not a Lobster. Full Member

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    someday I want to actually do a lot of research and make a top 15 for each classical division and a pfp list. At the moment I don't have an actually well thought out list but I provide a guess on who would be on my top 15.

    IN NO ORDER.

    Langford
    Robinson
    Greb
    Armstrong
    Charles
    Ali
    Fitzsimmons
    Leonard (Benny)
    Duran
    Moore
    Canzoneri
    Louis
    Leonard (Ray)
    Walker
    Pep

    Of course even with just making the list with no order it was still tricky. I really wanted to have guys like Ross, Mclarinin, Mcfarland, etc. There's also guys like Wilde and Dixon who right now puzzle me. I'm not sure what to make of them but if I ever got around to doing the research for an actual list, I might end up ranking them really high. As far as Mayweather and Pacquiao go I could see myself in the future after doing the proper research having them in my top 15. I think they both have good cases that might become even stronger after looking more in depth.
     
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  15. Fourth_Horseman

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    Pacquiao should be number 1.
     
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