OK - Is Manny Pac Top 15 of All Time?

Oh hi lil p........ stay hatin u mad mad

 

Personally I'd have him top 5

 

I’d say he just about makes it. His losses make it a bit harder but I’ll squeeze him in.

 

- 15-0 in title fight (12 for undisputed)
- Unbeaten during 13 years
- Winner of Benvenutti x2, Griffith x2, Bouttier x2, Napoles, Valdes x2... He killed the middleweight category for seven years.

 

Based on achievements and record in their own time, I.e. excluding cross era fantasy fights? Not quite, imo:

1. SRR
2. Greb
3. Langford
4. Armstrong
5. Charles
6. Fitzsimmons
7. Duran
8. B. Leonard
9. Louis
10. Ali
11. Pep
12. Walker
13. Gans
14. McFarland
15. Ross
16. Wilde
17. SRL
18. Mayweather
19. Moore
20. Pacquiao

 

I hoped he stayed at 135 & 140 longer as he could have gone up for the Cotto/ ODH fights & then come back down to where he belonged, would have been interesting what a miss.

 

Yeah i meant after those fights he should have gone back to 140 & even would have preferred him to stay at 135 longer after that great fight he had with Diaz.