**Ok-let's not be crazy-Pavlik beat Jermain...that's it for now**

Stop making generalizations. I have been calling Hopkins old since BEFORE he fought Tarver. This is not new. Beating an old Tarver and an overweight and old Wright is not proof of a resurrection.

 

LOL it really is about Miranda isnt it Orisha!

Why are you so ass hurt about this great young new champ.

Who gives a **** if he dug deep? Taylor is an undefeated fighter, and Winky and Bernard couldnt beat him. :deal

Now you take credit from him for digging deep? Stupidest thing I ever heard.

 

Orisha your a hater plain and simple. End of thread.

 

Why would he not carry it up to 175? Thats not a fact, thats your opinion. There are many fighters who moved up and took their power that far up.

Bhop was there before he was at MW. Once....and he LOST. His workrate is too low now. Pavlik will walk right through his punches and simply outwork him. Taylor outworked him for godsakes.

 

"Stop making generalizations. I have been calling Hopkins old since BEFORE he fought Tarver. This is not new. Beating an old Tarver and an overweight and old Wright is not proof of a resurrection."

hopkins is legend but. he is old. so much slower now. you can see. cant throw many punches. gets tired. it is all clear. noboody decline to so much still elite. you see it. most dont.
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There you go saying "you guys" again.

Never call someone a hugger with your track record. Can you show me where I said Pavlik is the best? Anywhere? Or do you think that by saying he beats Hopkins I think he is the best. Hopkins ISN'T the best. So beating him doesn't make Pavlik the best.

Dawson > Hopkins. Many are better now....he is NOT what he was.

 

From what i recall...the first I read was " Bull**** stoppage! "
Then when the fans showed up, it went back and forth.
If ya drag him thru the mud, as is being done alot, that causes more overzealous as you put. I did not see one that wanted Taylor, to come out early and give him props, the excuses started first. Congradulating him is part of it too.Things, however do seem to swing from both directions..b4 we knock or praise him, let's see what happens his first defense, and see what credibility if any, his opponent has. There was talk of Duddy, and he's kinda okay. but nothing big.

 

Actually right after the fight there were a ton of congradulations threads to Pavlik. Also a ton of people taking credit for calling it before hand AND calling Taylor a fraud.

Prior to this we already had someone calling Pavlik G.O.A.T at MW.

 

And now here comes the name calling.

Here is a quote from you.

I am sure I know the future, so you laugh at me?

Did you not just say this? You made a prediction on the future and called it a fact? Right? Anything else Orisha? I gave an opinion. I didn't call it a fact like you did.

Did I ever mention Pavlik as being the best? No, but you insinuate that I did (and ACB). I mentioned Dawson to explain that I don't think Hopkins is the best, so therefore beating Hopkins was not an insinuation that Pavlik would be the best by doing so.

Get over yourself and stop being a hypocrite.

 

pavlik has power. at middleweight his power is good compared to lightheavys. his power not need to carry even. just stay same.
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Reality is that Pavlik just took the real MW Championship and has a rematch clause at 68, which may even pay benefit, and sets the WINNER, for the winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler. THATS WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN:yep

A rematch is absolutely warranted!! This came seconds from going the other way in round 2, very tense seconds:good Makes me wonder, where's the appreciation for what took place?