**Ok-let's not be crazy-Pavlik beat Jermain...that's it for now**

I am amazed at you guys one agrees with the same conclusion.... that automatically makes it so...it has to be the Council has spoken...Dude this is not Star Wars....dude...WW is a slick fighter, and sure he is not the fighter he was as recently as fighting Tito, but he still ahs the defence and the move to make a tough fight against anyone....can he beat Pavlik and amke him look bad absolutely, I don' care if Pavlik is 8' ...WW is not a small cat himself at nearly 6'-0", now WW would be connecting from angles that Pavlik is not use to, and his lack of defence will be compromize on this fight, Pavlik might punch himself out trying to connect on WW...WW can take a punch also....now if he was able to control a stronger Tito, I beleive he can control a Kelly pavlik....

 

All of a sudden reading your post is the best MW since Carlos Monzon...please...he beat Jermain...he got pounded preatty good by Jermain who's skills are alightly above an amateur fighter...he makes up his lack of boxing skills with great ahtletic ability...now Pavlik won the fight becuase this lack of ringmanship and understanding what to do specially when you opponent is deeply hurt.....and true Pavlik will has to be part of that equation...but the deriving force was simply Jermain inhability to clsoe the show....Kudos to Pavlik for the win, but guys the guys has major flaws that will need to be corrected when dealing with master boxers of the calyber of BHop or WW.

 

well the fight that I saw of Taylor v WW was nothing to what you descriobe, and BTW....WW started as a JRMW and stayed there for the best part of his career, so sure, he is slightly smaller, but he can carry the weight well, and still be ellusive...he proved it again JT....now id you say 175 well that is another story but at 160...it is fair game...

 

Not really but hiding it ..says a lot about you.....like I said half something is not the same as full of something....

 

Kelly Pavlik has nothing to look with Joe C or Kessler...at this point he needs to take a couple of easy fights and solidify his stronghold on the MW division before he can move to 168 and beat any top tier 168lber

 

absolutely...I am ignorant and you are a high end schoolar....:rofl ..sure you have two cultures, but you are one or the other there's always one dominat culture...most people that are African American along with some type of variation of Anglo, will choose the African American ethnicity for many reason, but the most clear and obvious is that society treat them as African American that why they gravitate and embraced the culture far more than the Anglo even thou, as you mentioned, the have 2 half cultures...same thing when you have other culture, the off speing will gravitate toward one for many soci-cultural reason...and that is a fact.....but what do I know...in fact I can tell far more about you by your comment, it seems to me that you have gravitate away from you 50% PR heritage toward your other half for reasons that are only clear to you and soci-cultural along with your enviroments that created the reason for you to put your PR heritage in the back seat....but hey what do I know ...you are the schoolar ...I am the ignorant one....:rofl

 

No No...I am the ignorant remember, now if you don't understand this issue by-cultural people , one culture will be dominant...it is a fact ..but don;t take it from me...read about....many studies have been made on this issue alone....but hey you are the Rhodes Scholar...pardon the extra o...it is n ot the first time...is part of my ignorant way....

Once again you failed to understand a topic simply because your ego....but like I said you chaeck it ...proof me wrong...as I mentioned many studies on this subject have been published...