Ok, Maidana is no Roberto Duran, but guess what?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by richie leon, Feb 25, 2014.


  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Wait, so please tell me what Muhammad Ali's record is when factoring in his highly questionable decisions over Ken Norton and Doug Jones? Because you only selectively chose whose records to update based on your own opinion, or should I say, own agenda.

    Please tell me what Joe Louis' record is when factoring in his highly questionable decisions over Joe Walcott and Arturo Godoy.

    I am also curious as to what Juan Manuel Marquez's record is with his several questionable decisions.

    You forgot to list Marciano as 48-1, as his first win over LaStarza is highly debatable.

    What record does a guy like Marco Huck have nowadays? He has two losses, but he also has multiple close fights with Afolabi, a recognized robbery over Arslan, and a generally disagreed with decision win over Lebedev as well. He is 37-2-1, but you likely believe he is 35-5.

    Sugar Ray Robinson had many close and debatable victories in his career. Please update his record for me.

    There records are not debatable. They are factual. The deserved outcome of the performances are debatable. But lets not call a win a loss and vice versa. Because those things aren't opinion. They are fact. Mayweather beat Castillo twice. Lewis stopped Vitali. Facts.
     
  2. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are going in circles and have demonstrated your own incompetence and ignorance, much like Mayweather demonstrated his incompetence and ignorance in believing the farce he is an all time great boxer
     
  3. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why can't mayweather schedule a fight with pacman?bradley?

    honestly if he just put his ego aside, stopped being scared of losing and just fought the best no one would question him
     
  4. Dillyyo

    Dillyyo Active Member Full Member

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    You have to be clueless if you haven't realized the rift between Bob and Floyd. You can blame it on whichever side you would like, but the fact remains that Bob was the guy caught lying to the public about what happened in negotiations for a Floyd-Pac fight. Bob was the guy who offered Floyd an 8 million dollar contract to fight Margarito, knowing damn well Floyd wasn't going to agree to the other clause in the contract....sign with Bob for 3 more fights. Surely not after Floyd just got done paying money to get out of a contract with Bob.
     
  5. Dillyyo

    Dillyyo Active Member Full Member

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    Start watching some boxing from the past decade and all of your answers will be found.
     
  6. Dillyyo

    Dillyyo Active Member Full Member

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    I've never seen so many trainers, fighters and pundits talk about fighter, like you depict Floyd to be, in the same breath as some of the greats he's been mentioned with. Unless of course you would like us to believe they are foolish and know little to nothing about this game and you know all. Judging by some of your posts I've read, I would say that its not such a far fetch for me to believe that's exactly how you feel.
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As soon as you call Genaro Hernandez (RIP) a "paper champion," means people should stop listening to you. Not even going to get into the rest of your idiotic rant. The fact you actually spent the time to type that idiocy out is baffling. So devoid of reality and historical context that it is sad and frightening at the same time.

    And according to you, Castillo was a "paper champion" too? You are seriously an idiot.

    FYI -- Genaro Hernandez had never lost a fight at 130 pounds when Mayweather took his title. Paper champion indeed! (Only 2 career losses are to DLH at 135, and Mayweather at 130.)
     
  8. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its not how often you beat. It's WHO you beat. Brian Nielsen was 49-0. What's your point?
     
  9. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Calzaghe vs. Hopkins fight was not a robbery. Just saying
     
  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Leonard fought softer touches (although I wouldn't Kalule that, he was a very good fighter and the top 154 lb fighter) in between taking on prime/near-prime greats in Benitez, Duran, and Hearns. He fought the #1 guy in the division above him basically as a tune-up.

    Leonard turned into a cherry-picker late in the 80s, but his opposition from 1979-81 was great.
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My point is you clearly don't know jack **** if you're calling Genaro Hernandez a "paper champion." In all honesty, you deserve a slap in the face by any reasonable boxing historian for disrespecting Genaro like that. (RIP)

    It's pretty clear you don't even know who Genaro Hernandez was. Nobody with sense would call that man a paper champion. You also listed Castillo as a paper champion, which is just about as ridiculous as calling Genaro one, and again illustrates how absolutely clueless you are.


    Yes, you don't know jack ****, and frankly, deserve to have your ass kicked for disrespecting an excellent champion and class act in Genaro Hernandez. You got some nerve calling him a paper champion punk. I would slap you myself like the little kid you are if I could. And I know there are other posters here who have deep respect for Genaro Hernandez. You're a ****ing punk, seriously.

    Genaro Hernandez may not be an "ATG," but he was an excellent champion and a complete class act outside of the ring. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I suspect you're not, because you're just a little punk as I said who deserves to have his ass kicked for disrespecting this man.

    Anybody else want to chime in on calling Genaro Hernandez a "paper champion?" This kid should be slapped.

    And I could give a **** that your entire point was to trash Mayweather's career. Frankly, I don't give a ****. Leave Genaro Hernandez out of it you little piece of ****. The man deserves far more respect than you gave him in your idiotic rant.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Void has never fought anyone like Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, he has been running from Pac for years now even though the fans want a Pac/Void fight..........