Ok, now I understand why Wilder-Helenius comes off...

Wasn't Helenius a sparring partner of Wilders? I agree with you that this looks like it's shaping up to give Wilder back the WBC belt.

I still believe Helenius could start fast and pull off the upset. We don't know how damaged Wilder really is yet, after all he did get mauled by a huge fat gypsy twice in a row. Then there is the psychological aspect, has he put his demons to bed finally?

Doubtful... but Wilder can never be counted out due to that war crime of a right hand.

 

put him in with numer 5
they wont
lol

 

I think the WBC thinks if Joshua wins Saturday the odds are good that Fury will challenge Joshua for all the belts. Fury may even challenge Usyk if he wins. That's why I think the WBC is dragging their feet on stripping Fury of their title.

 

I seen worse .

 

Ortiz vs Ruiz is the title eliminator isn't it? I'm sure it was confirmed as that.

 

https://wbcboxing.com/en/all-or-nothing-ruiz-and-ortiz-dispute-wbc-eliminator/

 

Fighting on the same day as Haney vs Kambosos 2?
Only fanboys will turn up to the Wildette party
Al al al what are you doing?

Those ppv numbers will be comical lol.

 

Fans are assured a firefight and a KTFO here.

Haney-Kambosos II? Not so much.

 

We live in a world where people spend money like its nothing - Free tv is good for me (Think smart and not like a bone head)

 

Helenius can outbox Wilder. I mean who can't? Unfortunately, one big punch from Wilder will probably end it. A younger Helenius pre the injuries would have beaten Wilder.

 

The Helenius who wasn't having an easy time with significantly faded versions of Brewster, Peter and Liakhovich, who was relatively inexperienced as a pro and stiff as a board? Even Wlad's best contenders (except Fury) in their primes weren't as good as Wilder, let alone the washed up versions.

Helenius couldn't outbox Stiverne in the amateurs. You can also compare the Liakhovich performances. Helenius's only chance against Wilder would have been and still is a puncher's chance early in the fight.

 

I doubt Wilder-Helenius will be for the vacant belt. More likely that the winner of Wilder-Helenius fights the winner of Ruiz-Ortiz, either for the vacant belt of for "interim champion" status.

 

Not paying for either one but come on....the HW fight will be a slugfest while it lasts. Kam-Haney II will be non competitive and full. Helenius has a slim chance to win, Kambosos has no chance.

 

Who are the 3-4 Wilder opponents better than Helenius? Obviously Fury is one, and you could definitely make a case for Ortiz, but I’d say at worst, Helenius would be his 3rd toughest opponent. If you compare the resume of Ortiz and Helenius, they are actually pretty similar, plus Helenius is younger and presents some unique challenges with his height and reach.