Ok, *******s. The Hatton win was classic. But HOW does he beat Mosely?

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Shane can bang with either hand. I assure you Pac will have never faced a speedy slugger as Shane. Shane will go to the body and head. Neither man will have to go looking for each other. But Shane cannot see this as a gimme. All the cards favor Shane massively but Pac is a legit threat.
     
  2. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know he's got pops in both hands but what i'm saying is that right is longer, fast and stronger, a hand that margo would rather not talk about lol.

    My apprehension is that if ever pac wins this one, then people would be whining again that pac beat another old fighter who was forced to weight drain blah blah blah.

    BTW, arum denied that this fight is already written in stone, he said he will give chance pac to decide until after the JMM- floyd fight. It's actually team mosley circulating around the news that mosley-pac fight is almost lock which very far from the truth.
     
  3. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    true. i voted pac to win via decision. that is by heart.

    but brain says mosley. suddenly, the memories of dlh-hopkins fill my brain.

    that what happens when a small fighter go up against an bigger fighter, even if the guy is freaking old.
     
  4. Guidokz

    Guidokz Classic Psycho Full Member

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    The only fighter i would like pac to shut is valero, the rest are just too green and a mismatch for me..

    the guy can pop and hopefully doubters will be convinced that pac is no joke when that happens..

    but then again haters will throw all the excuses like..valero's opponents were all bums anyway
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's exactly what I have and Pac's people ( F. Roach) should have in mind... Just to add something to psycopath: Shane doesn't have much activity athletically really. He has tremendous combination of handspeed and power ( watch out 4 his left hook out of the combination) but against Pacquiao, he would have to move his body side to side, his head up and down, running and breaking fast to get in position much more than usual. So and below 147, it's Shane flurrying and winding his punches to catch Pac in the exchanges but Manny is much more comfortable to unleash his one shot like the str8 left or the right hook - Shane can never get to him first unloading with an overhand right!

    I feel it's fair to say that Shane would get extremelly tired and would decrease fast his workrate from midstage on but that's if Pac doesn't get hurt up until that point and if he doesn't decrease his own workrate due to that cause.
     
  6. Balistik

    Balistik Member Full Member

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    I got two questions for those who pick Pac to win : what happens if Mosley is healthy at the weight? And have you ever seen Mosley get tired in a fight?
     
  7. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's my point exactly. I'm trying to be a Pac fan, but the truth of the matter is that Shane IS an old guy, they ARE going to force him to weight drain, it puts a big ****ing asterisk besides this fight in the win column if Pac does win it. I don't like that, he's had way too much of that, and he can make huge money fighting anyone.

    I guess it's a fight that had to happen since Mosely has the belt, but I don't see a weight-drained old guy as a tough fight for Pacquiao. Mark my words, if they force Shane to go to 143 or below this will be an easy night for Pac and it will **** me the **** off.
     
  8. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    By draining him within an inch of his life like Oscar. Perfect strategy really.
     
  9. mking

    mking Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shane has to many flaws! Roach will find them, and Pac will show us all of them. If Mayorga can find em, Pac sure can.
     
  10. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto didn't out work Mosley. He tried to but started getting hurt so ended up outboxing him instead.
     
  11. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With a lot of movement
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    footspeed and combinations. I think Pac's combinations at a catchweight of 142-144 could hurt Mosley, on top of that Pac controls the range so well the fight will be on his terms. Dangerous fight for Pac though, if Mosley connects...KO.
     
  13. Dano

    Dano ATG Beltholder Full Member

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    This is going to be an awesome fight, I cant wait for it. Both guys are coming off very impressive wins and I dont like betting against either of them but in this case I have to go with Manny, he has youth on his side.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In order for PAC to win he has to control the pace of the fight. PAC will have to use his jab and more importantly ring generalship to dictate where the fight is faught. Manny's footwork will have to be on point and his offense will have to be clicking on all cylinders in order to keep Shane at a safe distance as much as possible while draining his fule over the course of the fight.

    My guess is the left hook and leads punches will have to be fast and accurate in order to keep Shane off balanced and "thinking". Shane is not as active as he once was. He is more conservative at his advanced age so PAC will have to use the dynamics we all know he has and force Shane to fight at a very high rate in order to pull away down the stretch of the fight. If PAC can do that he'll win a UD......if he can't PAC could end up being put to sleep.

    That's not to say PAC can not KO Shane if he lands the right shot. I just see this as a 12 round event full of action and back and forth moments. Close fight with PAC winning a UD.
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac has deficiencies as does everyone.....But honestly at this point in PAC evolution those "deficiencies" are very hard and few to really have many opportunities to capitolize on them.

    One of the best counter punchers and technical fighters in the sport couldnt capitolize on MORE prevalant deficencies that PAC has a couple of years back. This version of PAC is a lot better and getting better so Shane will have his work cut out for him. Naz Richardson will make this fight that much harder for PAC but again....Shane is not going to be in there with an easy target like Marg.

    For you to say Shane "can't be hurt by PAC" is setting yourself up to look the fool homeboy. PAC can hurt Shane as can Shane hurt PAC. PAC is more active and faster which will be anther key factor should PAC pull this off.