Ok, so most think Floyd is gonna win, which brings me to the biggie...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JimmyShimmy, Dec 11, 2009.


  1. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    ...Let's assume that it is so that Mayweather manages a Marquez job on Pacquiao due to speed, movement and reach.

    Is it so that Mayweather is not going to get much respect as he has presumed already?
     
  2. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    of course he won't get respect...then he will beat mosely and mosely will be too old or cotto who is a beaten man or berto who GOT EXPOSED as a fraud by floyd or PW who was EXPOSED already by martinez....one sure thing in ESB is floyd will never get credit from most who hate him
     
  3. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Big man your in cloud ****in cookoo land if you think Floyd can stand on the outside and potshot Pacquiao , when are all you Floyd Mayweather blind as a bat nut huggers gonna realise what Floyd did to JMM aint possible against Pacquiao @147 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    I don't give a damn about the haters not giving floyd respect in this forum.

    Floyd will have WORLD WIDE recognition if he pulls off this win.
     
  5. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    Oh, of course it won't be the same, but he may still counter-punch all the way to a clear victory.
     
  6. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Ok big man lets get this **** going , just how and why do you think Floyd will counter punch his way to victory against Pacquiao !!!!! ?????? :huh
     
  7. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    Because he has a very pretty defence!

    I feel Pacquiao will be suckered to lunge-in at many intervals a little too much with his head following that 67" reach and that is where Mayweather will do those crisp manoeuvres where he hits, shifts and hits in a three point move with enough power to jolt and affect Pacman's balance.

    Generally, Mayweather's awareness and positioning is in the league of Jose Napoles'. I think he forces the boxing match and picks away at a game but technically inferior angry Philippine!
     
  8. haglerforever

    haglerforever Member Full Member

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    Paquioa fans have been blinded by his last 2 wins...marquez is not the only one to give paquioa trouble ,what about morales ,an old morales,and both these fighters pale in comparison to mayweather.I also hope mayweather trades with paquioa mano to mano ,maybe late in fight.If he does he may gain haters respect..
     
  9. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    There is a strong element of truth in what your saying , but my argument is this :

    Floyd Mayweather does not deal with pressure well !!!!!!!!!!

    Examples , Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya !!!! , these guys did nothing special they just pressured Floyd , Pacquiao brings the type of pressure Floyd has never had to deal with , the only way Floyd can win this fight is to stand and fight Manny , every opponent Manny has faced in the last 3 years has fought a fight , why ????? because the output , hand speed , odd angles and head movement of Pacquiao dictates that if you dont trade with him you run the risk of being overwhelmed ala De La Hoya Pacquiao !!!!!!

    Yes there is a flip side to that coin , Manny has not faced anyone with Floyd's ability to make his opponent miss , but lets be real Floyd does not counter enough to stop Manny Pacquiao in his tracks , and he is not impossible to hit , even Marquez and Hatton had some joy in that department (more so Marquez) . Fact is Floyd's output will not stop Manny , FACT !!! , does Floyd Mayweather have the ability to stand in front of Pacquiao and knock him out yes !!!! , will he HELL NO !!!!! , that aint Floyd .

    Floyd will look to make Manny miss and counter , Manny will make the necessary adjustments in the fight and apply some serious pressure to Floyd , Floyd will realise he cant make Manny miss all 12 rounds and will will be sucked into a fight with Manny ....................... and then Pacquaio takes control of the fight .!!!!!
     
  10. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    You make some nice points, but may be you underrate Floyd's positioning a little and he can punch a bit as well!

    I may be underrating Pacquiao's ability to force a fight. Certainly the Roach gameplan is key.
     
  11. WelshintheUS

    WelshintheUS Active Member Full Member

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    This is the one for Floyd. More so than Shane or PW.
    If he wins this fight.....haters couldnt possibly ask for more
     
  12. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And you blind Pac lover seem to forget pac has had success against the mexican west coast style only, and its pretty much the only style he has faced in the US.

    Floyd had also beaten with good success as well as other styles, from the slick fast east cost style to the high pressure mexican west cost style.

    Pac will have to deal with a Slick fast east cost style which he has NEVER faced before in his whole career and he just so happen to be facing a ****ing master at this style so this fight is going to be very interesting.

    Floyd has had experience with pac style, Pac on the other hand has not had any experience with Floyd style or any other east coast style.

    Cotto style resemble the Mexican west coast style so he does not count.
     
  13. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    By Floyd beating and having good success against the high pressure mexican style im assuming your referring to Jose Luis Castillo ........................... oh no you cant be because Floyd lost that one and went life and death with him in the 2nd !!!!!! :patsch

    Pacquiao spars with East coast fighters , yes he hasnt fought any but he's been sparring this style of fighter for years ..... Floyd has never fought anybody who pressure's like Manny ,and in the past he hasnt dealt with pressure very well thats a fact !!!!!

    Manny is a south paw , who pushes a relentless pace , has great head movement , solid defence , throws punches from odd and un predictable angles , and bangs , all the attributes to beat Floyd Mayweather , and do the job well too !!!!!!!
     
  15. thewinfella

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    Can you elaborate on what you mean by positioning ??? :huh