Ok, so most think Floyd is gonna win, which brings me to the biggie...

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  1. JimmyShimmy

    JimmyShimmy 1050 psi Full Member

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    Ala always establishing the gap whilst on the move, whether you're being closed down and need to back peddle or hunting down your retreating target.

    Hatton has often been guilty of not giving himself enough space and smothering his own work. Mayweather is lovely at keeping you at the end of his punches thank's to his assertive positioning!
     
  2. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Mayweather makes this attribute look particularly good in fights in which he is in complete control of the pace , which lets be honest is often a slow calculated pace ??? agree'd !!!!

    Manny aint gonna allow that , its that simple , as a matter of fact he will be doing all he can to disrupt that from happening , but the beauty of it is , is that's Manny Pacquiao's natural game , its not something he needs to work on .

    You are making a massive massive mis calculation if you think this is gonna be a re run of , Judah , Gatti , Marquez , Hatton its just is'nt , Pacquiao is better , a lot better than any of them , and the way we have seen Floyd react under pressure in the past must lead us to think that he aint winning this fight !!!!! , he has to take more risks in this fight than he has ever before and he wont do it .............
     
  3. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, but Pac has a style that is his own. It's a style that can't be taught. He is very akward with fast hands and feet. However, I do feel that Floyd will still manage to get a UD. Pac does have a punchers chance though.
    Marquez wasn't able to risk taking a shot from Floyd to get his shot in, like he usually does. Floyd was just to big and Marquez didn't carry the weight like Pac does at the welters. I feel this is the only chance Pac has, to take a shot to get his in. If Pac took some good Cotto shots, he should be able to take some of Floyds. Pac will have to take these risks, thats the only chance I see him having to win. Pac has proved me wrong several times in the past, so we'll see.
     
  4. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's Pac who is going to have to take the risks to get the win, Floyd will just stay away keep his distance and time all of Pacs attacks. Pac will have to take shots to get in range to land his shots...
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Learn the sport before saying stupid **** like that. Hell Cotto was running and landing on Pac. Pac was clearly frustrated by his movement and was pretty much clueless. PBF could very easily stay on his bike against Pac for 12 rounds and shut his ass out and there would be nothing he could do to prevent it.:deal Pac can't cut off the ring he just follows people around.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Learn the sport. **** I swear these noobs on ESB don't know **** about styles or how to analyze match ups.:-(
     
  7. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Taking risks is a natural part of Manny's game he looks to end fights , that aint Floyd , once Floyd realises that he cannot stand on the outside and pot shot Manny he will have to react to that , and he wont , because thats not Floyd !!!!!

    You cant honestly beleive Floyd can stand on the outside and have the fight all his own way surely ?? :huh:huh
     
  8. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Well back your **** up mother ****er !!!!!! , read the above posts and you'll see there is a debate going on here dick head !!!!!!
     
  9. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love how Castillio beat floyd is every copycat poster ace in the hole .. Again Castillio was 15 pound heaver then floyd and floyd had a injured shoulder .. Once floyd got use the weight he had no problem with castillio .. Unlike pac and Marquez ...

    since when has pac ever spared a west coast fighter ? He has never fought one so why would he spar one.

    Same story different fighter same style .. Fact is Pac has never even faced a east coast style EVER

    same story again last time it came in the name of Hatton, then Castilio, then Oscar, the Baldimir.. This time its name is Pac .. The super natural phenom :roll:

    Pac going to find a completely different puzzle in floyd even Roach knows it based on this quote..

    This is a whole new ball game, Roach said. "Everything that worked for (Oscar) , everything that worked for (Cotto), everything that worked for (Hatton) will not work against Mayweather.

    Freddie...

    Freddie knows Floyd has faced every pressure style know to boxing just about, mowing forward on floyd like a tractor will only get you KOed ..
    Pac going to have to come with some new tricks come March.. Floyd has already familiar with his style and he fast enough to adjust to Pac speed and counter .. like freddie say what worked on cotto wont work on Floyd.
     
  10. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Big guy are you for ****ing real ??????????

    Cotto was on his bike because thats the only way he could get out the way of Manny's offensive , Cotto landed single meaningless shots on the back foot .....................
     
  11. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    East Coast style :huh:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Like every fighter from the east coast fights the same way,I cant believe the things some of these *****s come up with :-(
     
  12. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i see your very pasionate about your guy
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    myself not a fan of floyd, but the dude has serious skills and a definite hall of famer. cotto sure was damaged goods, but still good enough to beat a tough as hell clottey. if floyd beats manny, even squeeks by him,which i think he'll do, he's the real deal. his rematch win over castillo in his prime when he was the top lightweight in the world beating casamayor, stevie johnston, lascano, diaz, and bazan was good enough for me to acknowlege floyd's greatness. great, no doubt. duran, leonard great? hell no, no one is poking my eyes with that one. he need to beat mosley and williams for recognition. he could probably wait for mosley to decline some more like leonard did with hagler and then take on williams, today's diluted version of tommy hearns. then he'd be up there with the durans and leonards no questions asked. but he needs to take care of today's version of duran, which is manny.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    The kind of pressure Manny brings is just what the doctor ordered for a defensive counter-puncher like PBF. Manny doesn't cut the ring off he follows people around nor does he work behind an educated jab to get in. You will not beat an elite defenisve counter-puncher like PBF without a jab. I don't know how much I can stress this.:deal Manny also relies on his superior footspeed to get in and out before his opponents can react often doing so off balance. He doesn't go to the body often nor does he fight on the inside. It's not educated pressure. A guy like JLC applied educated pressure. He workred behind a jab cut off the ring and got inside picked his shots and went to the body. Pac is a head hunter he neglects the body most of the time. The type of educated pressure that JLC applied is more effective than Manny's because Pac's is so fundamentally flawed and will be exploited by PBF who has the athletic, defense, speed and counter-punching ability to do so.:deal
     
  15. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd can stay on the outside and have the fight all his own way. He's the master of that style. The fact that pac has great speed and fires from unexpected angles, might make things happen for him. Yes, Pac does take risks i don't disagree with that and he's going to have to take those risks and get right in there. But Floyd will tie him up, so he'll have to work fast.

    Look i'm rooting for Pac, but I'm being realistic, I'm giving Floyd the edge in this fight. I've said it before, Pac has proved me wrong time and time again, he just might do it again.