Ok, WHO does Cotto have to fight to gain some respect?

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I meant clearly not cleanly.

    But Mosley TKOed Margarito
     
  2. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Mosley win wasnt clear for you? I have seen that fight a couple of times now and there is no way Shane won.

    Yeah Mosley did TKO Margo though. thats why a rematch should happen ASAP.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I have scored it like 5 or 6 times. And like 3 Times for Cotto, 1 Draw 2 for Mosley.
     
  4. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Why would Floyd fight Margo in 2006 for a WBO title when he could fight Baldo for the Lineal Title? It made all the sense in the world to me.

    When Mayweather called out Mosley in 2006, Shane assed out around the challenge by complaining about a tooth ache:lol:

    How has Floyd refused to fight Pac? Because he didn't fight him right away in his first fight back? So he's fighting the guy that ALOT of people on ESB think beat Pacquiao both times and #2 P4P and that's somehow a refusal? Miguel Cotto fought a tamato can in Michael Jennings in his first fight back and nobody gave him bad press for it:huh

    And let me get this straight, somehow Floyd fighting an UNDEFEATED Ricky Hatton got bad press after the fight because supposedly all of a sudden, just to discredit Floyd, Hatton was "to small" Like Mayweather is this huge 147 lber picking on little guys. Truth is Floyd is no bigger than a 140 lber. Now Cotto is fighting Pacquiao (a smaller opponent) and Cotto doesn't get crucified like Floyd did? I'm not knocking Cotto but Please tell me, why is that?:huh
     
  5. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well in the words of NBA...most people had Cotto pinned as this all-time destroyer and terminator of the WW division and can see victory by any means possible. In a way he was everything Floyd was supposed to be, but just never really fulfilled.

    He's expected to KO all the top dogs in the division. That's what people want. That's whats expected. And that's what essentially will get him respect. The fact that he realistically beat these fighters by decision turns people cold because he didnt KO them like he's been "hyped" up to do. And more people are giving him flack because the only person at WW that he KO'd worth mentioning was Zab Judah. Which IMO is as good as any. Who else REALLY KO'd Zab? And dont give me that Kosta **** because in hindsight, Zab got up way too ****in' fast without gaining his equilibrium.

    People say Pac is going to KO Cotto because he has so far KO'd all his opponents. When any REAL logic tells you that he'll most likely win a decision if he did win.

    Right now, the way I see it. Cotto is slowly becoming the underdog in this fight if he hasnt already. Most people wouldnt be shocked if he KO'd Pacquiao and that's the shitty part about it. Its somewhat expected as his only chance of winning. If he KO's Pac its something he was supposed to do in the first place as the bigger man. If he decisions Pac he'll get all sorts of mad **** for it because he couldnt KO the smaller guy. If he loses to Pac it'll look horrible. If he gets KO'd in any sort of fashion, he'll be the laughing stock of ESB. So in a sense, you have to respect Cotto because no matter what. He will come in and do what he does best and get no credit for it and will still continue to fight the best and put on a great show no matter what the critics say. He is again...what Mayweather failed to be. A showman and a warrior. He never complains about money, never makes exxcuses, and always takes on challenges that he doesnt necessarily have to take. And he manages to always pull through no matter what is presented in front of him.

    To answer your question, he would have to KO all his opponents. Or at least someone that no one thought he could KO.

    Look at Mosley. No one thought Mosley would KO Margo and the fact that he did and Cotto took a knee against him puts Mosley on this pedastool as the new WW destroyer.

    Cotto would have to KO Pac in a Hatton like fashion in order to get respect. He most likely wont because of Pac's skillset, but if he did people MIGHT then give Cotto his credit. Anything short of that...and he'll have done a shitty job against a smaller opponent and still "lacks defense" and would get KO'd by anyone else.

    And me and the rest of the Cotto fanbase will have to be here to back our man up because at the end of the day...he deserves that much.
     
  6. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    After Shane knocked Margo out, wasn't Mosley vs Cotto 2 in the works? Shane said he's not gonna fight Cotto again at MSG, he'll fight him again in either Staples Center or Vegas then all of a sudden the talks died down. It didn't seem like Cotto was to enthusiastic:think
     
  7. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum wanted the fight to be at MSG before the Puerto Rican day parade.

    Cotto just wants fights and people put in front of him. The opponent, purse or place never matters.

    Mosley wanted it elsewhere because he felt fighting in LA would give him the nod.

    Its a two-way street. Mosley bitched out of fighting Cotto because it would be "on his home turf" but then demands it to be on his? :huh

    He acts as if he was robbed. Cotto clearly beat him no matter how close it was. It was clear.
     
  8. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    Give me a break with that sh*t. Shane was man enough to go to Cotto's back yard and fight him there. Bottom line. And he never bitched about the decision, he praised Cotto after and till this day. You mean to tell me now that Mosley is champ, Cotto shouldn't honor that and be man enough to fight Shane in LA? News flash, Mosley doesn't have a history in LA getting home decisions like some people feel Cotto does in NY. You pretty much just made it clear that your boy isn't brave enough to fight in another man's home turf. You just made my point for me. And to be honest with you, I think Shane would stop Cotto in a rematch IMO
     
  9. wuzupman

    wuzupman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are on esb he will never get credit here, just move on and don't bother mentioning cotto here, that's what I do.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He's gotten my respect years ago.

    Cotto is a great fighter.
     
  11. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    are you serious , Mosley , Clottey , Judah , Torres are these not top level fighters ????????????????????
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What, you want people to suck his nuts like VARG, Capitan, Braveheart, and Boricua Cotto1?????



    He gets plenty of credit here. He gets more than he deserves.



    Tell his ass to stop hiding behind Bob Arum and go ahead and fight
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    . Paul will fight his ass anywhere. MSG included, cause it won't go to the judges anyway.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Meant clearly.

    Torres was not top level yet and stepped in for the Cotto fight.

    Mosley was a close fight which Ive scored both ways.

    Clottey was top but close fight.

    Judah was not top level when Cotto got to him.
     
  14. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    If you are a real fan and really know what posters to listen to your fine. he gets mad respect from reputable posters and such.
     
  15. ps9teacher

    ps9teacher Member Full Member

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    Mosley DIDN'T step on the gas enough because he couldn't! Did you watch the fight at all? The body shots were ridiculous. Besides that Mosley's mangled face, not in blood but in swollenness(if that's even a word), gave testament to a true hard hitting welter! Clottey also didn't want to step it up because he knew that he would have to pay a price. Don't even mention Margo bc prior to his 9 KO's in his last 10 fights! He wasn't koing people at a 90 percent CLIP! In all honesty, I believe Cotto is going to shock many people who are caliing for a KO or TKO within 8 Rounds but in this case Cotto may be the one standing over a bloodied Pacman. Peace.