Okay experts its your turn youre the trainer

I made a thread like this and gave Bradley and Berto gameplans against Pac/May. Haven't done Ortiz yet

 

Hit Mayweather low in the opening roudn and make it dirty, get in his head and make sure he worries about your power and nasty streak from the off. Don't stand off him.

 

If I'm Ortiz I am making this physical as **** but not really letting my punches go until May is backed up into the ropes. I would pretty much try to walk Floyd down and back him up but not throw punches unless he throws punches and then try to catch him opening up or unless he is touching the ropes. Or if he tags me and holds me I would get violent trying to get free even if it means throwing him to the gruond and if my arm gets free then just hit him whereever what ever. Make this an ugly war and if Cortez wants to take points then so be it.

Also I would focus not necessarily on landing big punches that hurt but maybe just connecting something, anything.

 

:think that's not a bad idea. Timmy is somewhat similar to Floyd, but at the same time he's very far off

 

pray but Mayweather is GOD gifted so that wont work.

 

Before training camp begins ask yourself "What are some of the things Mayweather is great at;what are his weapons that you have to neutralize?" Right off the bat Mayweather uses a lead left hook and that straight right. Those are his money punches. So, we haveto neutralize them. Easier said then done, now the big question is HOW do to do it? First things first, Ortiz doesn't have a jab. That's not good he sticks it out and sort of paws with it and doesn't judge distance well. So, Mayweather will have a field day. Left hook, elbow, hold. Break the clinch, Ortiz gets close, Mayweather left hook, elbow, hold, rinse wash repeat. He has to avoid pawing with the jab so all of training camp I would work with Ortiz in throwing a nice straight, quick, jab BUT bring it right back. Right back to the chin to defend yourself because Mayweather will start adapting and timing it with his left hook. Next point, trying to take away his straight right. This is a bit tricky because Ortiz is a southpaw and a straight right usually had a field day with southpaws. The main thing you have to do is circle to te right. Just like a power shot you have to circle away from it that's why I'd be telling Ortiz to circle to his right and avoid the right hand. That does take away Ortiz' right hook because you moving to the right andyou can't exactly step in as well. So, just every once in awhile while jabbing mvpjng to the right jump in with a right hook and try and catch him.

Last point, try ad disrupt his timing. Don't let Mayweather start timing you be a bit tricky and clever jump in and out jab to the body left to the head. Circle to the right jump in with a right hook. Lead left hands. Be clever and don't get predictable. And if all that doesn't work, then hey, gotta go with plan number 4 and just go for broke. Get inside, on him like a shirt and pound away at him. So, there you go. I'm on my phone right how, so paragraphs might be off andsome spelling might be off, but that's my two cents on what Ortiz' gameplan might need to be.

 

Ortiz should just come in the ring with no gloves on and shoot him, because that's the only way he's going to beat Floyd Saturday night.

 

I'm not an expert, but why not...

Well he certainly can't box on the outside. He has to bring the aggression, pressure and infighting that he used against Berto. It's pretty much his only chance...he doesn't have the tools to box with Floyd, so he should avoid the chess game routine and make it a wild, heated fight on the inside.

Push Floyd onto the ropes, wrestle him around in the clinch, and when he uses his elbow and forearm on your throat be ready to dip low and shoot some bodyshots, because he's probably trying to get leverage for one of his straight right hands. Getting under that shot and hurting him to the body, especially his apparently vulnerable rib, would do wonders.

Use a lot of feinting, especially as you back him up to the ropes -- rather than lunging in with a hook like Hatton, try and fake him into throwing his counter FIRST, and then exploit that with a right hand over the top as he's moving to the side. (Notice that Marquez was able to hit Floyd in a similar way to this when they were at the ropes.)

Head movement. Lots and lots of head movement behind a high guard, as you're coming in, moving away, etc. I would usually like to see a good jab, but Ortiz can't suddenly develop one for a single fight, so I would just advise him to tighten up his hooks on the outside...sometimes they're so wide that they're easy to counter as he's moving forward, making him very vulnerable.

Go for constant activity. Ortiz needs to use his youth and conditioning to pour all his energy out into relentless pressure and attacking. Trying to conserve stamina and step off the gas a bit will probably make Floyd come after you and pile up point after point while you take stinging shots. He's a thinking fighter who prefers a slow pace where he can use his pot-shotting...so make the fight the opposite. Make things quick, make him uncomfortable, keep him from relaxing and resting physically and mentally.

If you do this for a while and land good shots, Floyd will take it up a gear and this is when he becomes more dangerous. He'll throw more combinations, he'll be more aggressive, and he'll try to impose his will on you. You can't back off here, even if he tags you...you need to push on even more strongly and exploit his aggression by trying to set him up for big shots to force him back into his shell.

 

I would have him apply enough pressure that PBF isn't totally comfortable, but not get overly anxious to the point that he is rushing in and getting smothered and/or countered. I would advise him to use his jab, but not get too much into it because it's going to open him up for counters and guys tend to get predictable when trying to work too much behind their jab. I would advise him to go to the body with power as much as possible, I wouldn't care if he landed one punch to the head prior to the sixth round. I would also want those body shots coming in the form of combinations, as many as he could get off. I would want him to plan to get hit, we aren't going to stand and look at PBF "hoping to not get countered" and allow him to get off first and dictate the pace. I would want my guy to dictate the pace of the fight (much easier said than done). I don't want my guy getting stuck in "tie ups" all night, PBF is great coming out of "breaks" and fighting inside, his movement coming out of breaks usually leads to him going on the offensive. Opponents tend to go stationary coming out of a break and PBF takes advantage, we don't want to be tied up, period. Mid Range is where we are going to win and we'll do it with a strong body attack. Obviously I'm not a professional or anything but this would be how I would try.

 

I like this gameplan ^ ...I also think Victor should pay a whole lot of attention to his body and try to break him down with some heavy bodyshots... But then again going up against Floyd , its a whole lot easier said then done .