Pavlik beat alot of top guys, Taylor twice who defeated long time middleweight KING Hopkins, he knocked out Miranda, and Zertuche. I aint saying he belongs in the top ten P4P rankings becuase he is a fight or two short of that, but he is well on his way.
And lets add only American fighters can be considered elite and belonging in the top ten P4P and all European fighters are bums and over protected. This seems to be another fallacy of ESB!
No but it got him to Miranda which lead him to Taylor he has consitantly stepped up his level of opposition in the last few years.
Who the **** on this earth has considered Lopez anywhere near lb 4 lb status? Stop making **** up atsch
These forum is flooded with "newbies" posting stupid stuffs like "Wlad is the number HW of all time". Are these really newbies? Or recycled old dumb posters? :yep :nut
Very good question, I think that Floyd should just come out of retirement to settle some of these rediculous claims. I hear ya though Wlad is the best thing since sliced bread:thumbsup