OKAY, who did or didn't JMM get robbed against?

Pacquiao thrice.

Arguably Norwood.

Not John (close fight that happened to go the way of the champ @ home)

Likar Ramos did not take a dive, he got KTFO and it counts as a valid W.

So, adjusted record, 58-3-0 instead of 54-6-1. Legitimate defeats to Duran, John and Mayweather.

 

Most of these fights i only saw them once.

So going by memory.

I had him losing to Norwood.

Beating John.

Losing to Pac in the first fight.

Beating Pac in the second and third fights.

All close fights that could have gone either way.

No robberies IMO.

 

The one without in my mind is their first one.

 

he was schooling john

 

Nope. It was more like two professors comparing their academic notes.

 

Only the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights were robberies, too many knockdowns in the 1st (I still had him winning by 1 point), Norwood and John were either way fights.

 

Pacman 2 and 3
Norwood were the only robberies imo

I can't call pacman 1 or John robberies too close

 

That's fair. :good


So you've got him only ever losing to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Javier Duran, opposite ends of the spectrum (p4p best of his generation with size advantage to boot, and a ****ing tomato can who got a lucky DQ against a newbie future great) :yep

 

It's okay to say he got robbed in the 1st even with all the knockdowns if you feel that (having given it to Marquez by a point) you gave Pacquiao all the additional rounds following the first that you could possibly give him.

Which is pretty much the case for me.

 

Take away the fire drill early (stop, drop, and roll!!) and John enjoyed far more success against Marquez than Pacquiao the 1st time.

 

Greatest of the feathrweights Kellerman is a fool !

He was robbed against Manny in 1st and 3rd for sure ! But was granted a gift against MAB !

 

WHOA. :scaredas:

Slow down.

Check out my av, rocking steady since '06.

I <3 MAB.


...but no. :yep

 

I think Marquez got robbed in the third Pacquiao fight. All the other fights could have gone either way