Old Favorite: Foreman vs. Fitzsimmons

I funny thought I had was that Fitzsimmons's fight with Creedon may have been a mini Foreman-Frazier, though I'm not sure Creedon have developed his left hook style by that point.

 

Foreman by very Savage Early ko .As hard as Bob could crack ,he's not beating Big George. I'll say maybe ,just maybe Bob sees the 2 nd .

 

Foreman would likely destroy Fitz as soon as he wants to, but maybe he takes a look in the first round, Fitz was certainly awkward.

So Foreman KO2 with little resistance. Pure annihilation. Could easily be over within a minute or so of the first round though.

 

The Newspapers, the day after their second fight stated if they had been the same aga and Fitz had been bigger he would have won.He hit Jeffries when and where he pleased,busted up his face something awful, put deep cuts above and below both eyes, and broke his nose, but the big guy just kept coming.
Fitz smashed his already suspect hands to pieces on Jeffries face, after 7 rounds he had nothing left to fight with.

A tremendous effort by Fitz, but credit is due to Jeffries for absorbing such a beating and continuing ,It would have been stopped in Fitz's favour before the ko today.

 

There was no talk of Jeffries skills in the next day reports of their second fight.They all said Fitz made him look like a novice, hitting him when and where he pleased!

 

Being skilled for the 1890's isn't saying much. Boxing has evolved so much since then. Foreman was a 6'3 230 who fought in the modern era against modern sized heavyweight . Fitsimmons was a 160 pound fighter who fought in a joke era. Foreman by KO in less than 20 seconds .

 

Edinburgh Evening News - Tuesday 28 January 1896
GLOVE FIGHT FOR £400
An important glove fight was decided at the National Sporting Club, London, last night. The competitors were Jem Smith, of London, and Dean Creedon, of Australia, who had signed articles to box the best of twenty rounds at catch weights for a purse of £400, of which the winner took £300 and the loser £100. Smith trained at Brighton, and was reported as weighing 13st. The Australian came to England from America in the early part of September. Born in New Zealand on June 12th, 1863, Creedon is a remarkably well-built man, standing the same height as Smith, but sealing in condition about 11st 4Ib. Creedon's record of something like seventy battles includes but one defeat from Fitzsimmons. Creedon visited England for the purpose of fighting Frank Craig, the black, and when the two met at the National Sporting Club on the 14th of last October, Creedon gained the award on points at the end of the twentieth round. For his match with Smith he trained at Wheathampstead. There was a very large attendance. At first Creedon's friends took even money about his chance, but presently they asked for and got 5 to 4 to their money. There were one or two minor events set for decision previous to the international battle, and it was half-past ten before the chief actors made their appearance on the scene. Smith looked too stout to do himself justice, but Creedon was in the pink of condition.

A BRIEF BUT DECISIVE BATTLE.
This fight was brief but decisive. Although as tall as Smith, Creedon crouched so very low that he appeared much the shorter of the two. As is the case with most Australian boxers, Creedon is very shifty on his feet, and dancing all round the ring, he takes a lot of catching. At the call of time, Creedon took the initiative, and getting in one or two swinging lefts on the mouth, he soon caused his rival to lose his temper. Smith was somewhat nonplussed at the treatment he was receiving. He lashed out furiosly, and made several attempts to reach the body with the left glove. Each time he did so, however, Creedon stepped back and avoided punishment. These continuel efforts made Smith puff and blow freely: and it was quite evident, even at this stage, that he was short of wind. About half-way through the round, Smith began to look weary; and Creedon, seeing this, went at him, and drove him across the ring with some stinging left handed blows on the face and mouth. The round ended greatly in the Australian's favour. Smith realised that his sole chance of winning was to beat Creedon quickly; and with this intention he began to force the work at a very warm pace when they faced each other for the second time, although he was giving so much weight away. However, Creedon stood up and fought his opponent like a game fellow, and, to the surprise of most of the onlookers, he more than held his own in the heavy work which took place. Although he made little use of his right hand. Smith got in some heavy punches on the body, but Creedon would not give way, and let out at the other man freely with the left. Smith, finding that he could make no impression on his rival, lost his head completely, and he rushed wildly at the Australian. As he did so Creedon ducked; and then at the same moment shooting out his left, he caught Smith a tremendous punch on the mouth, which knocked him right off his feet. Before anybody could quite realise what had happened, Smith was lying on his back in a helpless position. He remained down until after the ten seconds had been countedd off; and thus, after four minutes and twenty seconds' actual fighting, Creedon was proclaimed the winner. Mr B. J. Angle was referee.
Subsequently the ex middleweight champion of England, Ted Pritchard, issued a challenge to box Creedon and as the latter has accepted it a match will probably be arranged between them.


Fitzsimmons KOed Creedon in 2 rounds.

 

Old Foreman was beatable.

Very beatable at the highest level.

It didn't necessarily take a huge heavyweight to do it.

Moorer was doing it pretty handily, for most of the fight.

The Fitzsimmons that rampaged through the heavyweight division, might have a real chance against old Foreman.

 

Foreman has like 60lbs on Fitz, also why was a 11 year old thread bumped for this fight seems pretty obvious who would have won.

 

Even more one-sided than the first Frazier fight.

 

No man who weighs less than 180 lbs is beating foreman without a gun.