Old Fighters compared to 80's-to now fighters

It is never easy to compare different era's , I mean look at someone like Bill Russell on the Celtics, easily the best big man (along with Wilt) of his era, and led the Celtics to 10 championships or whatever, but if you took prime Bill Russell and teleported him to the present NBA, he would probably just be average.

Technologies, training techniques along with the ever advancing knowledge of perfecting a particular sport makes it unfair to judge past fighters the way you have.


THAT being said, George Foreman and Ali in present times would have demolished Lennox, the Klitchkos and most other fighters .... Prime Tyson maybe could have given them fits, but in terms of skill.... they had it. I mean a 46 year old Foreman KTFO of Michael Moorer, a present day athlete who beat Evander Holyfield

 

No ****! That doesn't eliminate the fact that Moorer beat him,

 

can you explain why you'd think it would be easier for Ali And Foreman to beat LL than Tyson ?

 

Because LL and Holyfield fought a Tyson who was weak minded, and well past his prime? That work for you?

 

With Holyfield I agree, although when they spoke about fighting Evander in 1990, Tyson would have been much stronger at the weight. Later Evander filled out and Tyson was diminished. Against Lewis. I am not sure Mike could have ever beat him. Lennox had that hammer right hand.

 

Hard to say Lewis is great, but Prime Mike Tyson could have KO'd LL easily I believe, his pure aggression and speed would have thrown LL off his 1-2 game and people really underestimate Tyson's defense during the mid to late 80's. Only if he had a better head on his shoulders and the heart of a champion, he would have been even more of an amazing fighter.

 

so you just decide that if Tyson was not weak minded he would've smashed LL and Holyfield ? :huh

 

The old time fighters were tougher and harder men than the guy's of today, they DIDN'T have the current technology, personal fitness trainers, chef's that can prepare a proper diet and food, creatine, amino acids, modern training supplements, and the old time guy's fought sometimes 40 ****ing rounds with half their face falling off, these days a guy gets a little bob-boo or gets a couple of hard shots against the ropes and the damn ref jumps in, the guy's today are bigger but so ****ing what bigger dosen't mean better:-(and to say the old time guy's didn't fight that well -bull****, watch a guy like Dempsey, attacked with more rage than Tyson, watch an old tape of Stanley Ketchel, they were smaller but fought like it was do or die, a lot of guy's today just fight for a check and quit or ***** out when it gets to tough:-(

 

Agreed. They did not have any of the advantages the guys of today have. One never knows what can happen inside a ring but at least by comparing them, the guys that fought decades ago seemed much tougher. Just imagine if they had all the commodities that fighters of today have. It is even scary to think how good they would be.

 

Your making generalizations.

Antonio Margarito, a P4P level guy and the #1 Welterweight today, looks like a "******" in comparison to someone like Jose Napoles.

Boxing came into its modern age roughly around the 1940's I would say, pure technical skills haven't improved much since, if at all. Training techniques and such have improved yes, but the level of pure boxing skill has not.

 

i give all fighters from any era props and respect they deserve, but i firmly feel fighters fromthe past were superior to todays in general simply because of their performances, not because an old coot says so. i mean what more proof does anyone really need? Big George almost took a time machine and beat some of the 90's best heavyweights when he wasn't supposed to beat any at all. that tells me what Ali, Frazier, Foster, Robinson, Armstrong, Duran all would of done had they been in their primes today. don't get me wrong, i got love for alot of today's fighters, like B-hop and Manny, but not because their throwbacks coincidentally, but because they really are great. the difference today and yesterday is today's greats are numbered and becoming rarer while back then they were by the dozens.

 

:yep YEP!!:good