Old fighters get overly romanticized

Slower Fight schedule, now there's a term,
you mean lesser or Much Lesser in some cases, much, much 'lesser'... full of Gifted boxers, well with only 23 fights to a name, how many of them are supposed 'gifted' boxer, in the manner that you are stating, as though it's just a given that they are, well many of them aren't 'gifted extra special. which of course is the point.

another point that often goes undiscussed as much as it should is Weight Divisions, yesteryears 160 lbs either side 5' 9" tall, Are Not fighting at 160 lbs today, nope most of them would be Lightweights cum Welters, so that too just adds to the validity of what they done in their own Natural Weight Era's fighting UP too and in a 100 - 150 fight career, fighting, many, many a Top & Noted fighter.

it was just different days, Recorded in Stone for all time and that can't be taken from these men, because, as I said before, they Did it, it's already Done!

 

Yes, people forget that Vander was considered a placeholder champ, too small and underpowered. Lewis was just a reincarnation of the Brit horizontal heavies. People were aghast that Foreman and Holmes were able to win a couple relevant fights... etc, etc...

 

It goes both ways.

There are just as many people who say Bud or Usyk would beat any one in history as there are those who say the same about fighters of the past.

The reality is when truly great top tier fighters all fight each other, no one is coming out undefeated.

 

It's one of the main reasons I love the sport. There's no end to the fascinating folklore, especially in the eras when the the model was one champion per division. In those days, when the top contenders were rated, it was easier to identify who were the really good fighters. These days with all the bogus titles and what I view as all the gaming involved with the weigh-ins, it's all just a potluck mish-mash.

 

How? He avoided almost every top fighter of his generation. Why would people want to debate how he would do in other eras when he didn't want to prove himself in his own era?

 

Yeah, gifted fighters with long am records from all parts of the planet—two parts which didn’t exist way back. And that’s picked out of population that x times bigger with x times more access to boxing bc they aren’t stuck on farms.

Maybe those old timers wouldn’t deal well with day before weigh ins. Maybe someone like Mayweather, who didn’t gain much weight after weighing in back then, would win a 175 title in the old days since light heavies were smaller.

 

PBF, would defo have been a WW cum MW back then and you do raise not only a good point, but rather thee point.

just put Mayweather against all the great Welters & Middles back then, times say 85 fights over 13 or 14 years, he'd have to have met a lot of the Top & Noted fighters to be found among them.

so I'll just leave that open to all the historians here, to determine what his win loss rate 'might' look like... that is the only reality and like I said, in the reverse order, all those great MW's of yesteryear today, would equally be found from LW - WW, so how would they have done against them today?

 

You’re just building on orders of false premises. Floyd might 15-0 Greb for all you really know.

 

Because older fighters get romanticized?

 

Not in boxing terms. How do you explain him not fighting so many of his contemporaries? The era is basically the same with or without him due to him not being willing to step up and fight top guys.

Deontay Wilder is the only guy whose legacy is really impacted if we take Fury out of this era. His personality and self promotion are irrelevant to his boxing legacy.

 

Not older fighters whose resume consists of a grand total of 3 ranked opponents. They are expected to actually contribute to their eras.

 

Lennox was criticized the most of anyone actually. Considered to be a boring glass jaw coward who only won because of his size, reach, and clinching. Fragmented the belts by ducking Byrd and Ruiz. His reputation has improved tremendously the last 25 years.

 

Wlad was the same throughout the late 2000s and early 2010s, people seem to be warming to him now he's retired.

 

It will always happen both ways.

Modern fighters get just as overrated.