Old Greats v New Greats

Like Uncle Rog said "Skills win fights." and that's about the only thing I agree with that man. Even today there are training techniques like the early morning runs just to name one that have been around since before Ali and will be used when we cease to exist. I'm not siding with the fighters from yesterday, but if you really know boxing you know back then their were fighters like Willie Pep, Benny Leonard, Emile Griffith, Nino Benvenuti, Roberto Duran, etc. that were highly skilled and easily just as great as today's greats. If you are talking heavyweights, especially the 40-50lbs difference from the 30'-70's HW's compared to today's, just look how much success former lightweight and cruiserweight champs Holyfield, Moorer, Adamek, Spinks, and Haye have had in the HW division and yet you think greats like Joe Louis, Jack Johnson, Marciano(who had wins over 2 opponents that outweighed him by 40lbs and which he stopped), and especially Ali wouldn't be able to do the same? I'm pretty sure they would and I'm not being biased at all.

 

You do realise that Mike Tyson lost when he was in his prime?

 

Some people are so dense. He would say that whether it was his view or not out of respect. Means nothing.

 

Indeed.

 

agreed.

ali could often be seen scoffing huge piles of doughnuts in between rounds of sparring.

jose napoles used to inject mars bars straight into his blood stream.

 

Mike Tysons first loss was when he was 24 years old and had only been a pro for 5 years.
He was on the back of a 6 fight KO streak which included 2 hall of famers and 3 Heavyweight Champions. He beat Frank Bruno 12 months before his first loss and beat Carl Williams 7 months before his first loss.
His next loss came when he was 29. He lost twice, back to back against Evander Holyfield.

So he looked good knocking Tomato cans and old timers over as a young heavyweight. So what.
He was limited. He was an excellent undisputed champion for a while, but he is NEVER an ATG.

His record just doesn't stack up.

 

I'm beginning to think you don't know enough about pre-Ali era to back your claims up.

 

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Glass mind!

funniest **** I heard all day