Old School Boxing Stance - Interesting Article

My mum calls then "the hobbit feet".

 

ohhh that is cleared up, i guess we misunderstood
and i do you see your point with the irish travlers



to the guy who brought up early mma, who said the damaged were from hooks and not straight punches???

and in the early days of mma there very few skilled strikers and thusly lots of sloppy punches which lead to damaged hands even with gloves.


watch burmese boxing and you will see these guys have a high guard
and hit each other plenty with all sorts of shots without gloves,
also watch irish travelers, again lots and lots of punches of all types

very few hand injuries espically in burma, where they fight every few weeks



the point i was making is that almost any style in the world with or without gloves uses modern style boxing punching and hands held high.


and about modern bareknucle guys boxing like normal boxers....well whats the point, it just shows the modern style works



and just from my own experience in street fights, hooks actually feel safer to throw, because they head the side of the head mostly which is not as hard as the front,



and the guy in the video, well he seems to have a quite a solid rep
and i would favor him over a guy who uses his fists like a fencer lol

ohh yeah no in the modern boxing, burmese boxing,mma or in most cases in ireland fights like their fists are a sword.......ever wonder why lol

 

Perhaps but there is no way (unless you are utterly inexperienced) you would throw one from long range on the outside in a bare knuckle fight. Or atempt a hooking combination on the way in. The old style stance developed over hundreds of years for a glove and wrap free format because it worked. Sure you can hook a guy who aint looking, but where is the honor in that?

 

Your wrong, here's why. Dempsey talks about this in street fighting, not in just a square dance (No gloves boxing fight). The idea is to use a straight jolting left from far distance before getting into grappling range. It's to extrapolate the best chances. Obviously hooks are very effective, especially in close. But in a no gloves boxing match the rules are not the same as a street fight when the other guy has the intentions of taking you down.

 

:good thats what i am talking about! If bare knuckle fighting took off again in a big way and real fighters took part in it the old style would come back. Take gloves off them, no hand wraps and good fighters will revert to using the leaning back fencing jack johnson stance prety quick.

Bare hands would get smashed to peices fighting with a modern tempo style and stance, which is why so much tape is used under gloves today.

 

Yeah go back to Jack Johnson style so every fight would be boring!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqOzDUUYsI[/ame]

 

Guys is it true the foot form things smeel like crap after only a few uses?


lol I can actually imagine that

 

nah, but i wash mine regularly.

 

curry feet sweat:nut

 

lets put something in place here, i was not talking about just leaping in with a hook or hitting someone when they are not looking,,,,trust both happen alot....


squared up or not, a hook is harder to see then a straight punch because it comes around your vision, and espically with no gloves or little gloves
where the hands are faster and the hooks are harder to block....

as far as honour goes, i myself dont hit people when they are not looking
but my friend if you think a lot of people will square up with you and give you a "fair" fight,
you might wake up in a hospital asking yourself what happened....


squareing up, with hands up almost never happens in real life, atleast very rarely....

i grew up in russia, then in a black ghetto and worked as a bouncer later for 4-5 years, so i have been in some fights trust me and seen many many more....


with the other guy that mentioned a striaght jolt, to set a big punch hook or not that....this is a good idea, and i have done it myself.


hooks are better in close, then further out but they can used from far too that is while both combat sambo and systema
use a lot of looping punches, and from there many russian boxers use also them because of the influence. vitali kitchko is good example,
in mma fedor


to the guy who mentioned takedowns in real fights, sure they happen but most people are not trying to take you down, they want to hurt as quick as possible, with punches or a bottle or whatever,
plus being on the ground is not a good idea in a real because of dirty stuff like biting and more importantly, many real fights are not 1-1
(ps i did bjj for over 5 years)



but back to the stance, and hook issue,
i do respect the old time bare knucke guys but you think
they knew more then modern boxers, combat sambo, systema,mma guys, burmenese boxers etc etc etc
all combined

if you watch guy a lot of guys in the early 1900's many of them leaned back from punches with the chin high
why???
because that is not all that to do if the guy is mainly throwing straight
when hooks come into play things change....



starting a fight bareknucle or gloved with a hook is not a great idea
but the hook is as an important punch as any other


the funny thing only bareknucle style or gloved for that matter
that looks kinda like what these guys did is actually wing chun

 

just to mention something

i have done boxing for over 10 years
bjj for about 5 years
wrestling in university for a bit

and have done a bit of muay thai, sambo and systema,
wing chun,takwondo

so i have done differnet style and not just boxing
and am aware of different ways of punches etc