Old School Training

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Marciano probably did do some unbelievable and insane amounts of hard training and road work.
    And his body WAS breaking down in the last year or two of his career.
    He had severe back pain and trouble and other niggles and pains when he retired. He had his last fight when he was what .. 31? 32? And I doubt he had more than one good fight left in him, if even that.

    He was super fit when peaked for a fight but the sheer volume of training wore him down, no doubt about it.
     
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  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano was an animal in training. Absolutely fixated on achieving ultra high levels of strength and cardio fitness. This is why in late stages of bouts he was able to continually attack throwing bombs one after another.
     
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  3. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Using weights can improve power but can also make a fighter slow .see plenty of kids come to the gym looking all bulked up with the usual mirror muscles but have no movement stiff and muscle bound .lots of casual fans think big muscles mean big power not true!.Holy used ballet to keep supple and keep his movement good one of the few who had big muscles and excellent mobility.
     
  4. Brixton Bomber

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    Those are guys who body build. Using Olympic Lifts would not hinder you at all.
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very true. Weight lifting has been s part of training for high jumpers, sprinters, "soccer"players and many others for some time. Sports were you definitely need to be mobile and limber.

    The main problem with weight lifting, as with any form of training really, is that it has an alternative cost. I e the more you train with weights the less time you have for other types of training (since there's after all a limit too how much you can train).

    On the other hand, we have the law of diminishing returns. I e the two extra hours of going from 8-10 hours of roadwork a week, will give less per hour than going from 1-3. And at some point (whether it be at 20 or 30 hours, or whatever) extra hours will have a negative impact, since the body gets worn out.

    So for a fighter who sees good results from just a few hours of weight training a week it makes more sense to take those hours from something else. For someone who must work much more to get any results, the trade-off might not be worth it.

    And I think weight training definitely should be prioritized below specific boxing training (technique drills, pads, sparring, heavy bag etc) as well as conditioning and callisthenics.
     
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  6. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one trained harder or ran harder on the roads than British bum, Frank Bruno and he had terrible stamina and conditioning once the fight began. He used all old school training but it didn't really help him.