Old Time Punching Machines?

bump. not sure if this was the thread i was talking about, no one really seemed to answer mcvey s question.

 

The problem with these tests is, that we don't know if the methodology was consistent, across the eras.

I wish that we did, because it would shatter a lot of the modern fighter arguments.

 

I ran into a punch machine in a bar years ago and my friends egged me on to try it out. Figuring it would take multiple punches and display the highest or accumulated damage I lightly tapped it with a range finder jab. The machine declared that I punched like a girl and couldn't crack an egg shell. I hung my head while my friends all laughed.

 

So, to summarise this threat, the official ESB all time greatest punchers (based on first hand sources) are:
1. Sam McVey - 1,270lbs,
2. Jim Jeffries - 1,100lbs,
3. Bob Fitzsimmons - 1070lbs
4. Rocky Marciano - 925
5. Matt Donnellon - 830lbs

Any others to add to the list?

I just added in Marciano based on the Hoboken New Jersey Tests someone mentioned in a thread. It would be really interesting to see tyson and foremans figures. I am pretty sure Frank Bruno did a test with pretty good figures

 

I'm not boasting but I usually break the machine records, getting in the high 900's.

I hit harder hooking the machine rather than straight shots, guess that's just me.

I've seen plenty of boxers hit them including Evander Holyfield and I literally destroy him when he throws a text book straight shot.

I've hit them before and it's broke the machine, I rattle them all over....

Holyfield looked **** poor if I'm being honest...

 

Understandable.
And of course the machines are not the be all and end all.
But having said that, they must have some form of accuracy in the sense that it gives us a ball park ideo of how hard they can hit when unloading on a stationery target. If Joe Choynski were to measure the same as most modern super heavys then isnt it fair to say that he probably hit about as hard as the modern super heavys?

 

Who's up for a punching machine comp? I know every machine is different but I think it will give us an idea of who can bang.

 

Past January 1900 Fitz KO'd Sharkey in 2 rounds, Ruhlin in 6 rounds ( brutal KO ), killed Coughlin, floored a very good Gardner 3x to win the light heavyweight title has a stoppage win over O'Brien. Are these results decent enough for you? Look before you leap, and it bias strikes, look twice. It will make you a better poster.

As for these older machines, I would not call them accurate in a micro sense, but anyone that produces over 1,000 PSI can hit.

On Fitz, he once Ko'd a 300 pound man in two rounds!

"In the second, Mayo was aggressive. He landed hard on Fitzsimmons's stomach, evidently angering the lanky man. Fitzsimmons then feinted a left and followed like lightning with his right, catching Mayo with frightful force on the chin. Mayo fell like a dead man, his head striking the boards with a crash and he lay senseless until counted out." They used 8oz. gloves. Mayo had trained for two weeks. Attendance: About 8,000 Ogden Standard

 

I think it just goes to show that your average Joe on the street can hit just as hard as a boxer but obviously it's a different ball game doing it in the ring....

 

Not even in the same ball park!