Oleg Maskaev vs George Foreman

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Who wins and how

  1. Maskaev KO/TKO

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  2. Foreman KO TKO

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  3. Maskaev Decision

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  4. Foreman Decision

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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best version of Old Foreman which is probably from the Cooney fight destroys Maskaev, Foreman that beat Moorer or even from the Briggs fights takes him out at some point, maybe whilst being slightly behind.
     
  2. Totentanz.

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    Maskaev could've been the sixth member of Foreman's freakshow and he would've lost.
     
  3. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    It never goes past round 2.

    Courage was jorneyman with glass jaw, Jefferson - fringe contender with glass jaw, and Rahman was genuine contender but nothing special, good but very basic in every aspect of the game.

    Maskaev couldn't take a punch and was slow as hell - that is not the way to beat George Foreman.

    He was KO'd early by McCall, Johnson and Whitaker. Granted, Johnson was quick, but neither McCall and Whitaker weren't (in case you say Foreman is not quick). Tua was very short and limited as hell.

    Johnson, Whitaker and T-Rex KO'd him cold. It's not hard to imagine what would happen when Foreman lands.

    But I know that Foreman is yours most hated fighter of all time, whereas Floyd is your favourite.
    So to make you happy: Mayweather beats prime Foreman, probably by early KO ;)
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    No.His ability to pace himself improved.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    So he had better stamina.
     
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  6. Totentanz.

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    If I'm pissing and I choose not to force it out, it'll take longer. Not because I have more ****, but because I'm taking my time.
    It's an easy thing to see.
     
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  7. Charles White

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    Much as I was a fan of Maskaev, I don’t see this fight ending well for him.
     
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  8. NoNeck

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    Back to reality: 70s Foreman was really bad at comfortably going the distance in the 70s.

    Furthermore, Foreman's strength and stamina might betry him due to actually fighting a fit guy who weighed 230 plus.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That says more about Tua and shouldn't realistically influence a pick here.


    It wouldn't and Foreman wouldn't be.


    Foreman W KO 1
     
  10. Totentanz.

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    Back to reality: Foreman wore himself down in fights and it made it difficult to go the distance because he couldn't pace himself, what a surprise. This will be a non issue though, since Maskaev would be knocked out in the first round.

    Furthermore, Foreman's strength was leagues beyond any of the men that Maskaev got knocked out by, regardless of him being over 20 lbs lighter than most of them.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Rahman could bench 400 (to 500*) pounds and he totally manhandled Lewis in that in-studio fight. Foreman wasn't nearly that strong in 74, much to the butthurt of your feelings.

    As for Oleg's chances against Foreman, Foreman would be in big trouble if Oleg got out of those early rounds. And Kirk Johnson was the only guy to put away a peak Oleg early and it off a Hail Mary with his eyes closed.

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  12. Totentanz.

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    Despite the fact that bench presses don't have too much correlation to power when it comes to punches in the ring (Shane Mosley could bench around 300-350 lbs as a welterweight, but we know for a fact that he didn't have any sort of power CLOSE to Rahman, or he would've been killing men in the ring), I'll play your game. We don't have much strength feats for the younger Foreman, as we don't for much, if ANY fighters from the 70s apart from rumors but the older version of George has a lot of feats of strength that are very famous- Him pulling a Jeep, lifting a cow on his shoulders, pretty simple stuff, right? It's also good to remember that most of these old time champions did not lift weights, and that contributed heavily to a man's muscle mass and weight gain- Men like Foreman and Shavers were the heaviest punchers in the division, but they typically had lost 20 lbs on a man like George Chuvalo, who DID lift weights- Yet we don't call Chuvalo a stronger puncher than either man due to basic logic. Rahman's weight lifting means nothing for this argument, and we already know he was physically inferior to men like Shannon Briggs punch wise due to statements by Lewis, much to the butthurt of your feelings.

    And I don't believe that Maskaev has any chance to make out of the early rounds (Not that I think that he'd have a chance past there), as Frazier couldn't even make it past 2.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    That's a decent argument and Maskaev was a good boxer. I still don't fancy his chin vs Foreman though.
     
  14. mcvey

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    No.The stamina was always there, in fact it would have been better in his younger days,what was missing was the nous to nurture it,to not go out like gang busters looking for the ko immediately.

    I really can't see how this should be hard to understand?
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Foreman went the distance twice in the 70's.
    Both times against defensively minded fighters,he pitched a near shut out against Peralta who was only stopped 3 times in over 100 fights,once by George,and lost to Young when suffering from heat exhaustion.Foreman shot his wad against Ali in extremely humid conditions because he went for the ko all the time. Foreman had no trouble going the distance with fit 230lbs Lou Saverese when George was 48 years old.
     
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