Oleg Maskaev vs. Jerry "The King of Classic" Quarry

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  1. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Both at their very best, who wins.

    At his best Maskaev stands 6'3" with a 79" reach and solid muscle even when he's over 240 Lbs. He is very strong, punches hard with both hands, has a high work rate, good stamina, a good jab, and underrated defense and overall boxing skills. He stopped Rahman x2 and Derrick Jefferson among others. On his way up he went toe to toe with a prime David Tua but was stopped in the 11th round, the fight was even after 10 rounds. His KO wins over lower level fighters like Robert Hawkins KO4, Alex Stewart KO7, Booker T. Word KO4, Courage Tshabalala KO9, Toakipa Tasefa KO1, Jeff Wooden KO3, Shane Sutcliffe KO2, Sedreck Fields KO8 and KO9, Owen Beck KO3 were all impressive KO wins. He also had a dominating 12 round decision win over Sinan Samil Sam.

    In his prime Quarry stood 6' and was under 200 Lbs. His power would not be a problem for Maskaev. He was a fan favorite who actually fell a bit short of what was expected from him. He was stopped by Ali x2, Frazier x2, and Norton. We didn't offer these men much to be worried about. His first fight vs. Frazier was the most competitive of these 5 fights, but that's not saying much. He fought close fights vs. former HW Champ Patterson x2 (both men hit the canvas, 1 close win and a draw vs. Patterson) and Ellis (close loss). He was easily outboxed by former HW title challenger Eddie Machen. He decisioned an up and coming Ron Lyle. He stopped Ernie Shavers. I think Lyle became a better fighter than Quarry. I think Lyle was better than Shavers and Quarry at his very best but not as good as Young.

    Result?

    I'll take Maskaev by late round stoppage.
     
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  2. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    I haven't seen enough of Quarry to comment at this point in time. However, when I do find time to sit down and watch the bulk of his fights, I will come back and answer. Thus far, most of my Quarry research has been involving his demise due to Pugilistic Dementia.
     
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  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oleg had a problem with power and Quarry had plenty of it. I remember Kirk Johnson landing a left hook that took Oleg out after hurting Johnson. Oleg was also a strong guy and puncher but Jerry always handled the big slow guys and Oleg fit that bill...Quarry by KO
     
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  4. heavy_hands

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    quarry maybe is the king of the classic but still he would kick the ass of this bum
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jerry didn't have more power than Rahman. And Jerry had shitty defense... or if he had good defense he often refused to use it. Oleg would land and most likely make it to the later rounds where Jerry's face would look like hamburger helper... stoppage.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Not sure...I didn't realize the size difference was that big.
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, and that glass in Oleg's chin would shatter into a million pieces.
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    A montage of Maskaev's ko losses should tell you of what would happen if he fought Quarry..."king of classic" or no.
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'd much rather contemplate Maskaev vs. Norton, actually.

    Jesus Christ, talk about racing to get in the first meaningful touch.
     
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quarry wud meik Maskaev's chin seem laik Chuvalo's .

    i 4 1 sink det deir chins wer not mach far apart .

    End i du beliv det Maskaev woz e superior h2h faiter end 4sure e superior pancher 2 Chuvalo .

    End 4 ol of Hookie's naic sameishen in hiz 1st post , hi 4go2menshen Chuvalo's KO of Quarry .

    Bat Quarry iz "King of Classic" sow du not Xpekt meni fer assessments of dis
     
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  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kirk Johnson used 2 floor Ibeabuchi in sparing , according 2 1 here .
    Quarry woz no Oliver McCall , Kirk Johnson , David Tua , Lance Whitaker or Corey Sanders .

    Olso i biliv det Maskaev hit et list e bit harder den Floyd Patterson 2sei de list .
     
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  12. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    Maskaev was quite an underrated fighter, all told, and a perennial overachiever. Despite his sloth and crackable jaw, he had a very awkward and deceptively educated style, and was adept at landing his big right with solid power behind it against a number of opponents. He was also tremendously game, and carried his power into the later rounds where he could be dangerous.

    Not making a prediction on this particular fight, just think Maskaev needs to be given his due here.
     
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  13. Bummy Davis

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    Jerry was only once stopped on cuts and it was a slice vs Ali. Quarry could handle the big slow bangers like Lyle, Foster, Spencer,Shavers and was even handling Chuvalo until that freak situation. Chuvalo most reminds me of Oleg (minus the Iron Jaw) but Oleg had more polish and could crack.

    The Frazier-Ali fights were just a case of a very good fighter vs Great fighters

    the thing with Jerry is he had a short window of prime and it was under Clancy but he had a solid chin and heavy handed for a smaller guy and developed some good ring skills. Forget the Maskeav chin and Quarry power angle for a minute and look at ring skills and I can see Jerry winning the nod.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoIWuKSV1E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslM8ZoZtuk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbFIr_Pk-I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVo9WKOVC80

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4WbJWdWuoc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEq5yG5EaA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6kyi42PgI

    Quarry was out of shape for Alexander but still got up from a tremendous punch and scored the KO
     
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  14. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    I called Quarry The "King of Classic" not because I feel he is anything special... I think he is overrated on this forum and I've made that very clear in the past. Many people on this forum try to make him sound like an all-time great, he was far from it. Yes, Chuvalo stopped him!

    I was being sarcastic... calling him King of Classic".

    Dude you need to quit posting like this... makes you look like a big ass D. Bag!
     
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  15. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Quarry wasn't great, not by any means. He was tough as could be, really liked to fight, could punch with both hands (especially the left). He had pretty good boxing skills that he often forgot about, but he could box and that shouldn't be forgotten. I grew up watching him.
    I know I saw Maskaev fight once, and, in that fight, I thought he really really sucked. That guy, in that fight, Quarry would beat him up. I think I saw him in another fight and, if I am correct at it was the same guy, he was big, strong, tough, but didn't show much in the way of skill. The guy in that fight would have a shot with Quarry if he could make it into a fight where he could lay on Quarry and maul him, or if he landed a big shot at some point.
    From what I have seen of the two fighters- admittedly not much of Maskaev- Quarry operated on a much higher skill level.
     
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