Oleksandr Gvozdyk Would Easily Dominate And Brutally KO Andrzej Fonfara. Yes Or No?

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  1. Badbot

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    Of ocurse i am. Stevenson nearly took him out in the early rounds and when Fonfara finally had him, he let it slip. It was Stevenson who finished the fight strong, despite gassing and being hurt badly.
    And what does Cleverly´s face have to do with anything? He took over 400 punches and kept going.
    Fonfara has no real power, his chin is average and so is his defence. Hell, for a top 10 guy he has probably one of the worst defences at 175 since Cloud.
    But fortunently for him, he has determination.
    Still doesn´t change the fact that he got lucky vs Glen Johnson. Ouboxed by Tommy freaking Karpency and Gabriel Campillo(no real shame in that, but still).

    And Fonfara did not look all that good vs Doudou Ngumbu either. Right now, out of the top 10, Fonfara could maybe beat Braehmer or Chilemba.
     
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  2. Son Of Goosen

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    Don't hear anyone calling Fonfara a great technician. There are more ways to win in this sport than just being the better boxer as the Campillo and Karpency fights have proven. The one thing you failed to mention is the fact that knocked both around the ring and made one quit while he KO'd the other. Stamina grit toughness and high punch output can offset being less technically sound.
     
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  3. Badbot

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    And the moment he steps in with someone like Gvozdyk, he will loose. Case in points - Stevenson. A better fighter would have stopped him.
     
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  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Id say a lot of LHWs come in around 190.

    If you're seeing guys who are around 5'7 putting on 15 lbs on the light divisions, you can imagine guys who are 6'2 or so can easily put on that weight over night
     
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  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Fonfara has a good chin
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Not sure what Fonfara's fight night weights are but I'm sure I remember someone on here saying his walk around weight is high. He didn't have a problem getting down to the catchweight of 172 for the Chavez fight though (he was 171½ on the scales).

    A journalist who was doing a feature on him said he looked taller in the flesh than his listed height as well

    'Andrzej Fonfara entered the gym in the middle of my discussion with Bogdan. We were quickly introduced and I started interviewing Fonfara while he wrapped his own hands in preparation for the day’s workout. My initial perception of Fonfara was that he seemed much taller than his listed height of six feet, two inches. I’m about six feet tall myself, but he towered over me. He also looked chiseled. He must be no more than six percent body fat.'

    I should imagine he's coming coming in or around 188-190 sort of range. Cleverly said he's usually about 182 on the night when fighting at 175

    The highest fight night weight for a LHW that I'm aware of is the 191 Chad Dawson weighed for the Glen Johnson rematch. Marcus Browne equaled that last week against Hot Rod. Stevenson and Bellew were both 189 and 190 respectively for their fight too.

    I've heard a few people say they think Gvozdyk is massive for the weight and that he must rehydrating a huge amount after weighing in but I'm not so sure about that. He said he makes the weight easy and he doesn't look drained at weigh ins. In fact he looks pretty healthy during them.

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    People were saying the same about Vasily Lepikhin, that he must've been coming in at 190 or more but he only weighed 182 against Chilemba.

    Isaac Chilemba VS Vasily Lepikhin - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Chilemba: Official: 175 - Unofficial: 185
    Lepikhin: Official: 175 - Unofficial: 182

    Some of Kovalev's fight night weights

    Kovalev 181 - Sillakh 185
    Kovalev 183 - Agnew 187
    Kovalev 185 - Caparello 185
    Kovalev 188 - Hopkins 182
    Kovalev 189 - Pascal 185
    Kovalev 183.5 - Mohammedi 180.5
    Kovalev 186 - Pascal 185


    Here's a list of some other LHW fight night weights. Some of them are catchweights and some are are not natural LHWs who are just fighting outside of their weight class.


    Light Heavyweight Division: 175 lbs

    2015:

    Jean Pascal VS Yunieski Gonzalez - Contested at Cruiserweight range, but both considered to be campaigning at light heavyweight. It's my understanding that there was a catch-weight agreement for 178 pounds.

    Pascal: Official: 178 - Unofficial: 188
    Gonzalez: Official: 177.5 - Unofficial: 189

    Source for catch-weight agreement: ProBoxing Fans

    January:

    Gilberto Ramirez VS Maxim Vlasov - Contested at Light Heavyweight, with a catch-weight limit of 171 pounds agreed upon. (HBO Broadcast)

    Ramirez: 170.5 - 182
    Vlasov: 170 - 179

    2014:

    Badou Jack VS Francisco Sierra - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Jack: 183
    Sierra: 200

    January:

    Jean Pascal VS Lucian Bute - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Pascal: 185
    Bute: 184

    Source: During the HBO broadcast's tale of the tape

    2013:


    November:

    Adonis Stevenson VS Tony Bellew - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Stevenson: 189
    Bellew: 190

    May:

    Badou Jack VS Michael Gbenga - Contested at Light Heavyweight (range)

    Jack: 178.5
    Gbenga: 182.75


    2011:

    May:

    Chad Dawson VS Adrian Diaconu - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Dawson: 187
    Diaconu: 186

    Bernard Hopkins VS Jean Pascal II (rematch) - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Hopkins: 186
    Pascal: 186

    2009:

    November:


    Chad Dawson VS Glen Johnson II - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Dawson: 191
    Johnson: 189

    2008:

    October:

    Bernard Hopkins VS Kelly Pavlik - Contested at Light Heavyweight, with a catch-weight limit of 170 pounds.

    Hopkins: 180
    Pavlik: 174

    2006:

    June:

    Bernard Hopkins VS Antonio Tarver - Contested at Light Heavyweight

    Hopkins: 182
    Tarver: 187
     
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  7. Vysotskyy

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    I think Gvozdyk would beat him, quite possibly stop him, but it wouldn't be an easy fight.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Damn Joe Smith Jr. beat The Nail to it.:lol:


    Lol at all you Stevenson fanboys, that kind of puts things into perspective a little better for you doesn't it?
     
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  9. silencio

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    Huge upset last night! Brutal finish too. Hope Fonfara recovers from it fully.
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for posting that, amazing skills from both guys!
     
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