Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois & Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Hamzah Sheeraz RBR.

I too look forward to this. When it first happened I thought it was legit because of the angle; the replays convinced me it was low, and further examination confirmed it in my eyes. I will admit though, I'm someone who is a big fan of Usyk and wanted him to win, so I'm not gonna deny that could be influencing my opinion, but it just doesn't look like a legal shot to me. Not super low but low all the same.

Like I said, this fight was great because everyone wins. Us Usyk fans got to see his first Heavyweight KO, his detractors have something to spit venom at him about. And Fury and Warren can now make Fury-Dubois and insisit it's the "real" Undisputed fight

 

Naww I'm keeping it real. I saw a perfectly good belt-line shot. I could make the exact same argument about you and your Usyk fandom!! Don't get too worked up over this. It's controversial MAN.

 

Amused by all this hullabaloo after the fight.

Punch was low by the standards of what was established before the fight began. Whether it was low in actuality is irrelevant.

Had the ref counted it as a knockdown Usyk would likely have got up before the count and taken the rest of the round to shake it off. He wasn't paralysed to the point where he was barely able to move, just looked in a lot of pain.

Is Usyk weak to the midsection? Yes. This wasn't some secret. Beterbiev hurt him there and scored a knockdown in the amateurs. Gassiev caught him a great gut shot and shook him up as well. Ditto Joshua.

Re: Fury. Fury doesn't throw crisp uppercuts to the stomach like Dubois threw. He throws big thudding combination bodyshots that he needs to be in an opponent's wheelhouse to land. If Usyk has completely lost his legs then he might get hit by them, but chances are any effective work Fury does against Usyk will have to be upstairs.

Re: Wilder. No idea why people are bringing up Wilder here. When has he ever thrown anything resembling a good body shot?

 

Your boy quit.

 

He wouldn't go down from a shot like that, because he's not soft in the body like Usyk.

 

@CST80 BTW refresh my memory, what was your view on Bud's "low blow" vs Khan? Did you agree with me on that one, that that was low?

 

Keep crying as your boy quit. The blow was below the belly button. Low blow. I'd say open your eyes but that's useless.

 

History showed he's soft against Slavic men.

 

I wouldn't have been screaming bloody murder either way. If he was dropped from a shot like that, I would have accepted it and considered it "close enough". It's not a 1:1 comparison because Canelo doesn't keep his trunks that high.

 

One thing I always do as it pertains to how low blows are adjudicated is to provide context and describe the path of the punch, if it was moving upward or where the punch was targetted. Like with Bud's low blow against Khan, Bud clearly aimed that low, and Khan's movement affected where it landed. Dubois shot was not "dirty" he was not targetting Usyk low.

And how about you : do you consider Dubois shot as "dirty" or intentionally low?

 

Nice nose.