Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois & Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Hamzah Sheeraz RBR.

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    No, it is legal to strike anywhere on the body above the belt, arms, neck or head that is at the front or side. It is illegal to strike the back. However some punches are not effective wearing gloves, just as some punches are inadvisable if not wearing gloves - bareknuckle and gloved boxing are two different things.
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canello's personal junk sucker talking about damage control the irony. remind me why PED's are okay if your hero takes pops dirty.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    It's entirely irrelevant... I think it was a low blow regardless. It doesn't matter. If it's unintentional, they're given time to recover. If it's dirty and intentional, he gets time to recover and Dubois gets a point docked.
     
  4. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Clear low blow.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough. It's a borderline situation. It wasn't a dirty shot and I had the same reaction as the announcer did. That looked good. BUT you could certainly make the argument that it skimmed the lower part of the belt-line on its way up. But don't try to act like it's crazy to think that was OK and Usyk was lucky. He was hurt by a shot that many refs would rule a KD.
     
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  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bladder shot. The new best way to knock a man out. The new generation of British boxers already drilling the technique.
     
  7. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    Already changing your narrative, I see.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    CLEAR? Nothing clear about that. In that frame the glove is blurry from upwards movement, the transfer of power from the shot had not occurred yet. Argue it was technically low all you want, but don't try to act like that was clear.
     
  9. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Contact has already been made in that image.
     
  10. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should be grateful any sane person on this forum still tries to discuss reality with you.
     
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  11. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    No, it is legal to strike anywhere on the body above the belt, arms, neck or head that is at the front or side. It is illegal to strike the back. However some punches are not effective wearing gloves, just as some punches are inadvisable if not wearing gloves - bareknuckle and gloved boxing are two different things.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Same narrative - the punch was moving upward. The flash frame of it possibly skimming the lower part of the belt on its way up doesn't change anything. That's not a conclusive freeze frame. And by the way I made a similar argument for Bud's low blow of Khan, which was much lower than that, which hit not just on the lower part of the belt-line but part of the glove was below the belt-line. And there were people saying I was wrong that it was perfectly legal lmao. My narrative is that this was a belt-line shot and Usyk was very lucky to have that ruled a low blow.
     
  13. Flo_Raiden

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    I still believe that Usyk may have gotten lucky for that to be considered low by the ref. And it’s likely he may have milked it to give himself more time to recover. But with that said I can’t blame Usyk for taking advantage of the situation.

    Low blow argument aside I was still impressed with how Usyk managed to make some adjustments and pummel Dubois with the jab and made him quit. Unfortunately this performance will be marred with controversy. People will scream for a rematch because of round 5 but let’s not forget that Dubois did quit in the end. Other than that round Usyk won the majority of the fight prior to the stoppage.
     
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  14. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Totally missed this one
     
  15. CooperKupp

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    It’s amazing the depths SOME will go to try and discredit Usyk. Lol! It really is classless. But… consider the sources! ;)

    The usual suspects just don’t get that a shot DOESN’T have to land right on the nuts to be a low blow. If it hits on the top of the cup… it will hurt like hell for reasons already explained!!

    And correct me if I’m wrong… But did the ref point near Usyk’s ****ing crotch and say “I’m gonna call this right here low!!” during the pre-fight instructions???? Or did he point right at the belt line??