Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois & Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Hamzah Sheeraz RBR.

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  1. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    Already changing your narrative, I see.
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    CLEAR? Nothing clear about that. In that frame the glove is blurry from upwards movement, the transfer of power from the shot had not occurred yet. Argue it was technically low all you want, but don't try to act like that was clear.
     
  3. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Contact has already been made in that image.
     
  4. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should be grateful any sane person on this forum still tries to discuss reality with you.
     
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  5. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    No, it is legal to strike anywhere on the body above the belt, arms, neck or head that is at the front or side. It is illegal to strike the back. However some punches are not effective wearing gloves, just as some punches are inadvisable if not wearing gloves - bareknuckle and gloved boxing are two different things.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same narrative - the punch was moving upward. The flash frame of it possibly skimming the lower part of the belt on its way up doesn't change anything. That's not a conclusive freeze frame. And by the way I made a similar argument for Bud's low blow of Khan, which was much lower than that, which hit not just on the lower part of the belt-line but part of the glove was below the belt-line. And there were people saying I was wrong that it was perfectly legal lmao. My narrative is that this was a belt-line shot and Usyk was very lucky to have that ruled a low blow.
     
  7. Flo_Raiden

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    I still believe that Usyk may have gotten lucky for that to be considered low by the ref. And it’s likely he may have milked it to give himself more time to recover. But with that said I can’t blame Usyk for taking advantage of the situation.

    Low blow argument aside I was still impressed with how Usyk managed to make some adjustments and pummel Dubois with the jab and made him quit. Unfortunately this performance will be marred with controversy. People will scream for a rematch because of round 5 but let’s not forget that Dubois did quit in the end. Other than that round Usyk won the majority of the fight prior to the stoppage.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Totally missed this one
     
  9. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    It’s amazing the depths SOME will go to try and discredit Usyk. Lol! It really is classless. But… consider the sources! ;)

    The usual suspects just don’t get that a shot DOESN’T have to land right on the nuts to be a low blow. If it hits on the top of the cup… it will hurt like hell for reasons already explained!!

    And correct me if I’m wrong… But did the ref point near Usyk’s ****ing crotch and say “I’m gonna call this right here low!!” during the pre-fight instructions???? Or did he point right at the belt line??
     
  10. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How long have you been following boxing? Likely not as long as I have.
    Many fighters, including great ones, not only looked at refs to influence them, but tried to tell the ref what to do in key moments during fights.
    Exhibit 1, "the Greatest" more so the 2nd half of his career. Appears it happened less in 1900s-60s than it has from 1970s to date.

    Usyk does not have a history of excessively behaving in this manner.
     
  11. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Unless Max lands a low blow I can’t see him beating Usyk
     
  12. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    WSB version of Usyk was a beast. Obviously he declined since those days due to age and wear and tear but I think the comparison is still an unfair one as WSB bouts were scheduled for 5 rounds instead of 12. Fighters would obviously be much more active, agile and explosive for a 5 round bout than for a 12 round one.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Nah he was just significantly quicker, with quicker reaction times and reflexes, and quicker pulling the trigger too. That southpaw counter left was lightening quick and he would let it go a millisecond after his opponent threw a lead.
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

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    Clearly yes, how are people questioning whether that was low? :thinking:

    Part of Dubois' glove landed on the beltline, which is legal, but a good chunk of it landed south of the border.
     
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  15. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not one part of Dubois glove touched flesh and Usyk’s trunks were not High. Ref rules it low end of story.