Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Tyson Luke Fury II - Usyk 226 lbs, Fury 281 lbs

It's impossible to tell.

If Fury turns up in a Wilder 2 mode and gets big John out of his corner then who knows.

In theory Usyk will be older but Tyson looks more depleted so you have to make Usyk favourite.

Can't bet against Usyk but Tyson has an underdog punchers chance that he should have capitalised on by the 6th-7th round if he wasn't so delusional and cocky in the first fight.

If he can't beat Usyk on points he always needed to go for the KO earlier and he did rock Usyk a couple of times but didn't capitalise and took the fight way too lightly with the three yes men in his corner.

I give Tyson a 40% chance, only 100% if he can get back to Wilder 2 levels.

 

2nd fight will be fascinating.
Rounds 4-6 were excellent from Fury and he looked like he turned it around.

Even though Usyk won decisively and boxed really well I think every heavyweight fight has to be taking something out of him. Fury can hurt him and at times outbox him.

Fury has excellent recuperative powers so should be ok but this fight, the Wilder fight and his lifestyle in general mean it will be hard for him to comeback.

Fury has nothing to lose now which makes him more dangerous.

In the build-up to the fight I think he showed signs of nerves for the first time ever.

He didn’t have his usual confidence in the press conferences.

His ring walk was also a bit strange. He expended a lot of energy, a lot of his entourage looked a bit nervous and not sure if anyone has mentioned this but he did a little run to the ring which reminded me a little bit of Enzo Maccarinelli vs David Haye.

The rematch depends on whether the 1st fight took anything away from Usyk, Fury’s stamina, is he able to win rounds without fading because Usyk’s pressure seems to drain him, can Fury jump on Usyk if he hurts him and can he find a way to get out of the way of Usyk’s left hand (was hitting him at will).

I really hope Usyk wins and retires. He has nothing left to prove after this fight.

 

I think a lot of his showboating especially early on was performative.

The more effective work came from Usyk and he was banking rounds but if Fury landed a flashy shot he was showboating to make it look to the crowd and judges like he was in control.

 

I see them, and i want them. But im tired of this rematches.
We will never see so many great fights cause of UK fighters privileges to have second and even a third go. You had to beat them 2 time with 9-3 or 8-4 to get a razer close SD. And for a bonus you had to fight them again.....
This is for all of Hearn and that worm Warren fighters.
I would love to see:
Hrgovic - AJ
Dubois - AJ
Parker - AJ
Fury - AJ
Fury - Hrgovic
Fury - Dubois
Kabayel vs all of them. Joyce for AJ and Fury. Wilder vs AJ. Zhang vs AJ and Fury.
Well at the end we can bet who will make thw most of this fights.
Either AJ or Parker, not Fury for certain.
Usyk is 38, he is as good as done.

 

Obviously Usyk is the favourite here, but I don't write Fury off. For a start, if Usyk slows down too much Fury's size will win the day without needing to do anything special.

 

I get your point. However they agreed on the rematch, and it's acceptable for the #1 and #2 to run it back. Plenty of other great fights to make in the meantime.

Personally I'd replace Dubios with Joyce for more fun match ups on your list.

 

No, Tyson was showboating at the start when he was behind too much like he did in Wilder 1, but he was ahead by rounds 6-7 in my opinion. He also genuinely rocked Usyk twice and only failed in moving forward to finish Usyk off. He underestimated Usyk's energy in the later rounds and let his guard down too much because that is where Usyk became stronger. He took his eye off the ball when he was ahead in Wilder 1 too. He genuinely is too much up his own ass and didn't realise he was behind in the fight and needed the knockout and/or to not get knocked down. He is capable but just not in this mentality with this corner and needed to be in reality with 1 corner man with 1 game plan.

 

They were 1 and 2. Now they are not, unless Fury proves that. Yeah they agreed on the rematch, but it was October. And the first fight, when was signed(not the ducking before that) was supposed to happen in 2023 December. it ends up at May 2024.

I see people telling me I'm just hating on Fury, but is it?
Who's fault is it exactly?

That fight should have happen in February 2023. And the rematch in the end of the summer.
Wasn't Fury the one saying he doesn't want the rematch, even though the rematch clause comes from his team ?
And didn't Fury himself said he ain't any good if he can't beat the middleweight ? That AJ is average, as a big good HW will always beat good little man ?
He also did say the loser doesn't deserve a rematch and should go home with d*** in his hands.

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Fury own's word, not mine. So by his own word he doesn't deserve one.
So no, i'm not hating, Fury did this to himself. He deserve it.
And while i'm portrayed as AJ fanboy i was the first one to say Usyk should not fight AJ at all. And after all the drama with the War, that it's better for him to retire and focus on his family. And that they will try to rob him in the AJ rematch, just like it happen.

Should we even talk about my fight prediction and everything i said was 100% spot on? The referee, judges, how the fight plays out, etc ?
AJ - Ngannou, AJ - Wallin. Exactly how i predicted it.

Anyway the rematch is going to happen, which i don't like and think Usyk and his team are doing idiotic stuffs but still i'm not certain that Fury will shows up for the rematch to be fair.

 

Put $50 on Fury at 2.6ish/1 for value. Might balance it with an Usyk by TKO 10 bet

 

Looking forward to this one - 21 December 2024?

I don’t see Fury improving on his performance in the first fight.

However, there is the possibility that Usyk himself might go back a bit from the last time out.

Usyk has definitely lost some speed, mobility and overall stamina but he is also highly adaptable - not just in the face of what his opponent brings to the table but also relative to any deteriorations in his own game.

In terms of strategy and accents, I thought it was a somewhat different Usyk (in fight 1) than we have been using to seeing.

On Olek’s part, by necessity or pure election or a combination of both, I definitely saw a trade off between evasion and mobility AND setting himself more to punch with greater authority.

Ali made a similar adaption in his second career but it does invite the potential absorption of greater punishment and reliance on one’s chin.

 

Guys this was a split decision that was razor close on the cards. If Fury doesn't get knocked down and simply loses that round it is a draw. I don't care if you do or do not agree with the scores, that is what happened.
If Fury improves only slightly in the rematch he will likely get the nod to set up the trilogy.
I took a SD either way in the first fight and did well. I'm leaning towards a Fury decision this time around, there is value there in my opinion.

 

Muad' Dib!

 

I'm worried that Usyk might age out or he enjoys the Hollywood lifestyle too much which he is currently doing.