Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Tyson Luke Fury II - Usyk 226 lbs, Fury 281 lbs

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The Cat or Gypsy King?

Poll closed Dec 21, 2024.
  1. Usyk on points

    31.6%
  2. Usyk by stoppage

    38.2%
  3. Draw

    1.5%
  4. Fury on points

    11.0%
  5. Fury by stoppage

    17.6%
  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Me the night before the fight.
     
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  2. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    Quality over quantity. It's not like he's been taking easy fights.
     
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  3. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Fury needs to make that many changes. I think the weight means he will sit on his punches much more if he has Usyk in trouble.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Throw in the one injury he has had and, most recently, filming THE SMASHING MACHINE, and hit it on the head. Mostly not his fault.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will add that he has done what he has needed to do. He beat Fury and Joshua, the two other claimants for being the best of the post-Klitschko era, and Dubois, the coming man.

    He has said he is only interested in a Dubois rematch at heavy, and I am sure he could be convinced to take on Parker if Parker beats Dubois. Other than that, what else is there?
     
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  6. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

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    It was more comparable to Leonard/Hearns 1. Fury showed some excellent boxing skills like Hearns and Usyk showed he is a dog deep down and isn't afraid to walk the bigger guy down like Leonard did.
     
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  7. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    This ^

    Take his heavyweight debut with Chazzer spoonwizzy out of the equation and he's only ever fought live dogs. All with different styles and attributes, and a few with claimed 'elite' status. And he's given every man a fecking pasting.

    At his age now, and with the HUGE milage on his clock, I'm hoping he calls it a day after a hopefully decisive result, either way, with the Pork Belly Slice re-match.
     
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  8. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    Fury did nothing but put roadblocks in the way. Waited for Usyk's mandatories to trigger and then went "HAHA tough luck go fight Dubois at the copperbox" With bricktop rubbing his hands like "haha yeah this is our chance to take Usyk out with Dubois and if we lose this, he's going to kill my man uh oh"
     
  9. Slipz

    Slipz New Member banned Full Member

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    Before going straight into the rematch with Usyk, should Fury have taken a rematch? We’ve seen many fighters who lost the first bout, lose in similar fashion or worse in the rematch, same results. AJ’s fights against Usyk for example and many more. Fury needed to take a tune up or even 2, and then rematch Usyk to stand any chance to beat him
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Fury had a tune up he could end up losing remember Ngannou ? Wallin ? They were so called tune ups which almost turned into a disaster.

    No we don't need more stalling both fighters are getting on in age an immediate rematch was the correct decision.
     
  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Additionally Fury tends to perform better in his rematches. Best for him to go into this one fresh.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me it's the best option for Fury to take the rematch straight away I don't see any benefit of him wasting his time in a tune up Fury is not exactly the most consistent with his performances or staying in shape.

    So he might aswell jump straight back into the lions den before he gets too old and past it likewise for Usyk.
     
  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Fury would see this fight as an opportunity for 1) redemption in direct relationship to the first fight and 2) justifiably or not, an opportunity to place himself as # 1 best HW for the era.

    As Fury perceives it, imo, this ONE fight provides for the optimal risk/reward ratio. Any other fight prior to provides as a potential spanner (disastrous) in the works for Fury’s ultimate end game.

    If Fury loses, then his last 3 fights will reflect a dour struggle and controversial win against a debutant and 2 x losses to Usyk. The importance of a win here for Fury is quite obvious.

    I doubt that Fury is looking beyond this fight save for a rubber match vs Usyk in the event of Fury winning.
     
  14. Faz42

    Faz42 Member Full Member

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    Totally get what people are saying here about what fury can change etc but are we not completely overlooking 2 aspects.

    The first he was completely overtrained and went into the fight far too light showing this.

    And secondly his head wasn't in the game all week up to the fight and especially not on fight night. Now he says that was because of Paris not coming out and him knowing something was up with the baby she was carrying but I've heard from camp alongside this he was also off his antidepressants for too long as his camp went long because of the fight being postponed. He doesn't take them when training because it "dulls" him, but obviously too long off and his mental health suffers.

    Maybe we see a different tyson in there?
     
  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    So @miniq has voted 29 times for "Fury by stoppage". Rigged vote, but not unexpected.