Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Tyson Luke Fury II - Usyk 226 lbs, Fury 281 lbs

Not many outside of hardcore fans care
As good as usyk is, not many caauals care about him

If it was Joshua or Wilder, especially Joshua then it would be megahyped

Fury is the one that sells this fight, usyk won't draw flies without a dance partner. This is sad, but true

Jake paul v Canelo would obliterate this on ppv

Only nerds like us that hang around forums and YouTube think it is massive, it is not

 

Totally agree. It’s also an indictment that the man in the middle can have so much influence/effect on a fight either way. Usyk did do well to extricate himself from attempts to tie him up - going under and shifting/turning his position - actually utilising his smaller size to advantage.

 

To be fair, he never said that himself. Andy Lee said that and fanboys ran with it.

 

Interesting.

I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure Fury made reference to it himself also. I’ll try to find it.

I also recollect that Tyson highlighted the irony of him protecting the cut during preparation via limited sparring with the cut not opening during the actual fight.

As if to say, as Tyson framed it, that his reduction in sparring was somewhat a waste of time - though of course if he did reduce sparring - it would’ve allowed for better healing.

 

Further to my previous post - I located the clip I was referring to.

Tyson clearly uses the alleged limited sparring as an excuse and clearly in contradiction to his prior claims of a perfect camp.

I understand that recently Fury has returned to the “no excuses” line but that’s just something he does, despite having said otherwise: -

Go to the 3 min mark for relevant comments, also note the reference to a “16 inch cut”, lol: -

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You're right. So Fury made that excuse as well after all. Sad. He learned a lot from his buddy Wilder.

 

This has serious potential to be fight of the year. Both men are going to leave it all on the line. Will be just as much about heart and will to win. Didn't expect them to have such great chemistry in the ring.

 

I watched the pre fight documentary with a lot of Queensbury affiliated personnel and they framed the entire thing as if Fury got hit by a lucky shot and that changed the fight and he was just walking through Usyk like some non entity. It was really grating and a pointless delusional act, idk who is responsible for that narrative but it is not accurate or respectful and changes nothing at all. I saw a fight where Fury was controlling the majority of the early rounds but Usyk was slowly gaining ground and wearing him down and getting closer to putting him in dangerous situations, the rounds were close and especially into the middle of the fight, most to Fury, some to Usyk. Fury had some really impressive moments and hurt him a couple times but nothing crazy, they tried to make it seem like he was ******* 8-0 up and a big shock that punch came when he was threatening Tyson more and more each round to light him up with something. What they get out of crediting Usyk with little but the round he turned Fury into a literal desperate zombie I don't know. If this is Tyson's real thinking that it was 'easy' until then he will experience the same outcome.

 

Both men have the tools to win imo. Usyk a nightmare to fight tho. Gets you working harder than you want to be working in order to keep him off then drowns you down the straight with his stamina.

He got fury with it but it was a struggle. Fury upped his output in the middle rounds in response and it very nearly worked for fury. The bigger heavier punches are tiring usyk. Usyk had to properly grind it out them middle rounds to get his reward for getting him working hard from the first round.

Fury was digging in the body shots and uppercut well in them middle round. Usyk seen it out and think he,ll do it again but fury has the tools. Usyk getting pushed against these bigger guys. Its all about footwork and stamina for usyk.....the problem is the heavier punches are negating his gameplan a lot more than against the cruiserweights. He still has the stamina advantage....that stamina,s being tested when hes working so hard himself and taking the heavier punches tho.

 

The single shot “turn a round” claim is very lean on genuine analytics.

In the first fight, Usyk showed from the outset that he could hurt Fury and put him on the back foot.

This may or may not have been a revelation for some - but it was a significant, fight impacting variable that can’t be accurately firmed up until two fighters actually face one another in the ring.

Just imo, Usyk bagged the first 3 rounds, Tyson the next 3 rounds, and Usyk basically took the remaining rounds thereafter.

A clear win but obviously no walk in the park for Olek who is past prime himself.

 

There is a very disturbing video up of Turkyi prank-calling Usyk and calling him a "freak" and telling him that Fury is going to knock him out with Fury on the other line.

First of all, I posted it and it was taken down. I AM NOT ARGUING WITH MODERATORS DECISIONS and will not re-post it here, but I can't believe that it is against any rule to let people know that they should seek this video out for themselves and watch it to draw their own conclusions.

My feeling after watching this is that Usyk will have to get the stoppage to win.

 

No excuses? Lol.

Aside from the Ukraine war “losing” him the fight, he went from from a perfect camp then, later, to a not so perfect camp. Just another excuse to add to the heap.

He wasn’t thinking about anything? - yeah, he was thinking about how many excuses he could come up with after the fact of his defeat.

He couldn’t deal and was/is in denial.