Oleksandr Usyk’s Team Says Tyson Fury Is Currently “Worth Nothing”

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  1. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sry I misread you. I stand corrected. Personally I don’t blame Fury for everything (like you guys), but that’s ok.
    I still hope the fight gets made rather then anyone getting stripped.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah this comment just prove my point. And i don't hate anyone i just see through Fury b. c. and call it like it is.
    Just like the majority of the people here and everyone else.
     
  3. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So being objective is believing it’s always Furys fault if negotiation breaks down?? It has happened countless times in the world of boxing… May - Pac, Spence - Craw, Joshua - Wilder just to name a few. I’m always backing the fighters. The promotors on the other hand…
     
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  4. Mr Stagger Lee

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  5. 40ozoe

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    Fury va Chazz.... the brawl for it all.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't worry about any of these guys. I'm not a part of someone's "congregation."

    And people who bring up fights like Cunningham and Pajkic from a decade or longer ago are out of touch.

    Tyson Fury thought he and Usyk were going to fight in Saudi for some huge purse. Then his buddy Daniel Kinahan fell out with the Saudis (the group Usyk just signed with) because there is a global manhunt out for Kinahan and the Saudis don't want their dealings with him bringing down their sport plans. So Fury lost his point of contact there in Saudi. But he can't get away from the Irish mob boss until the mob boss is dead. Arum and Warren don't seem to know how to deal with the Saudis. Kinahan was the member of Fury's team who was going to do deal with them. Now Fury realizes with the Saudis walking away from Kinahan he (Fury) isn't likely to get the nearly $100 million purse that was comparable to the purse he thought he was going to get from the Joshua fight a couple years ago. And now Usyk has signed with the global oil sheiks and now they're talking ****, so Fury knows it's probably over for him in Saudi.

    https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/w...gainst-daniel-kinahan-claims/a1950165114.html

    So you have global oil sheiks who cut up reporters' bodies into little pieces dealing with Irish mafia weapons dealers looking to "wash" money through boxing matches ... and they aren't getting along ... and goofballs on boxing message boards thinks what's happening is one boxer is afraid of another.

    Fury and Usyk are hard men who have aligned themselves with even harder, more evil men, some of whom are wanted globally, some of whom order people's bodies cut up because they wrote negative stories about the "prince."

    It's gone far beyond boxing at this point. These guys involved in these deals make Don King look like a pick pocket.

    The books that are going to come out of this someday will make the 1950s era in the sport look comical.

    Now that Canelo is fighting Badou Jack, the Saudis are going to end up trying to make Usyk-Canelo. They already said Usyk could go back to cruiser when they said they didn't need Fury. And the casual fans may love Usyk-Canelo, but for the heavyweight division it would suck.

    What the heavyweight division needs right now is a couple more upsets like Zhang-Joyce. Fury and Usyk both need to get starched, preferably by some mandatory who doesn't need to sign a return clause.

    The sport needs to get away from billionaire oil wackjobs who will put the sport on hold for a year until one of their stadiums get built. It's like when Pablo Escobar was washing money into the Colombian football teams. People thought judges' scores are bad now. Wait until they're sitting there sweating because the "Sheik's guy" is clearly losing and the Saudis want that guy to win. Nobody wants to get chopped up in a hotel room and miss their flight home.

    But what's great about the heavyweight division is even the best laid plans can vanish with a knockout.

    Unfortunately, the current "fate" of the division seems to rest on the shoulders of the fragile Daniel Dubois and whoever Fury picks to get smacked around next. So I don't think any upsets are in the works.

    None of this is going to end well if the division continues down this path. But, we'll see, I guess.
     
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  7. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Oh, you don't say - Usyk signed a contract with people who now deny working with Kinahan, little all ever slaughtered reporters?! Impossible! The guy is noble all the way, there is only one nobler than him, one that Usyk feeds - Zelenskyy (one of the greatest criminals in modern history). Come on, you know the narrative...

    By the way, Krasyuk is a very bad actor and a liar:

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    Team Usyk decides how much Fury is worth - what a joke! Usyk's new partners confirm Fury is the marketing machine, not Usyk.

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    You are reading just fine, it is just so typical for Usyk and his fans to be hypocrites - some people persistently spit hate on Fury for being garbage in life, but is easy to start singing another song, when they are exposed.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    What's funny is the Saudi spokesman (who always wants to know who talked bad about the Sheik to the reporter doing the stories) deny their involvement with Kinahan, then in the photo immediately under the comment in the article is a photo of all them schmoozing with him.
    :rolleyes:

    There has always been underworld characters involved in boxing.

    It's documented that the Klitschko brothers, as amateur boxers, worked as "muscle" for the Ukrainian mobster Victor Rybalko (who was later killed in a gangland hit).

    There is a famous story of the Klitschko brothers going to see Don King and Vitali deciding he couldn't trust King because King sat in his home behind a player piano and pretended he was playing. And Vitali thought he was really playing (because he'd never seen a player piano before, I guess). And Vitali deciding then that King was "tricky." Meanwhile, he goes to King's house and he brings the Ukrainian mobster Ribyalko with him. In the extended video of the Klitschkos visiting Don King that's online, King even asks, "Which one of you is Victor?" Because Don King was told who Victor was in advance and knew who Victor was.

    It basically would've been like if a boxer showed up at a meeting with a new promoter and John Gotti showed up with the fighters, and negotiated for them with the promoter.

    The Klitschkos were in the Ukraine mob. Rybalko helped negotiate their first deals.

    Now, we've graduated to mobsters wanted globally for smuggling arms and billionaire sheiks who carve up reporters.

    It's "amped up" a tad as of late, that's for sure.
     
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  9. Braindamage

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    Oh, that's why Fury refuses to fight him. The Saudi's. OK, got it!
     
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  11. deadACE

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    It's the Saudis fault lol ffs
     
  12. Reg

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    Witherspoon would fit in well with Tysons typical voluntary fight.
     
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  13. MAD_PIGE0N

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    1. Usyk (supposedly) has an iron chin and a proven "glass body" however
    2. Usyk IQ is unseen
    3. Usyk is very fast
    4. Usyk has great cardio
    5. Usyk has more than 400-500... 500 000 fights
    6. Usyk is beloved by the UK fans, he just fights a UK fighter in Poland for a funny amount of money, but that is because Usuk is not about the money
    Result: Usyk fights a total crap like Chazz, then waits for an entire year before going against Chisora who is another crap, lesser than Chazz, but still... But hey, why not forget all that and mock Fury (who shamed himself with Chisora III, but then what does that say for Usyk fighting the same man) for fighting Chazz which he never did, but whatever? Usyk won over AJ - oh, wow, that is so impressive - the only one who made AJ minced meat was a two-weeks-notice obese and shorter Ruiz.

    Note: I don't deny how technical, fast and smart boxer Usyk is.

    Hint: Call me "Fury apologist" (or anything) because the facts around Usyk spit in your face.
     
  14. FastSmith7

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    Proven glass body where? Hes been hit with collosal body shots by the likes of Gassiev and AJ and never was close to being in trouble.
     
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  15. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Looking at your avatar... If you don't know there is no point of having an arguing - Usyk has an iron body, you are right. I just wonder how about the rest...?