Oleksandr Usyk ATG ranking

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Holyfield heavyweight record
    Pinklon Thomas
    Michael Dokes
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes
    Riddick Bowe
    Ray Mercer
    Michael Moorer
    Mike Tyson

    Usyk heavyweight record
    Anthony Joshua
    Tyson Fury
     
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  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Holyfield heavyweight record:

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  4. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does Fields have a deeper resume at HW?
    I don't think so. He lost to Bowe twice, lost to Lewis twice. He did beat past prime Tyson.
     
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  5. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He clearly does, losing doesn't change that.
     
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  6. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And it was proved that he is on that sweet stuff. There is not even a question.
    Usyk is clean 100%.
     
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  7. FastSmith7

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    Fury and AJ are better wins than anyone on Holyfields resume bar maybe Bowe but that win was also a 50/50 fight, could have gone either way, on top of that he lost twice to Bowe. Usyk is undefeated, imagine giving Usyk massive props if he beat AJ in a razor tight fight and then got beat twice and knocked out by AJ.
     
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  8. Kamus

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  9. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does. Taking peds changes everything too. His best wins are past it Tyson and Bowe. However, Bowe got him twice.
    Usyk is undefeated at this point.
     
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  10. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

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    No, it really doesn't. He still has wins over Bowe, Tyson, Moorer, Mercer, Thomas, Douglas, Dokes, and past it versions of Holmes and Foreman. Losing does not make your winning resume thinner. Usyk's strong point is that he is undefeated, yes, but his winning HW resume is not as deep. You could argue the Fury win is better than any of Holyfield's wins, or even AJ, but Holyfield has a bunch of other good names in there, whereas Usyk does not.
     
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  11. Smokin Bert

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    A great fighter. Maybe ATG. One of the greatest Cruiserweights of all time. (I have him 2nd to Holyfield)

    Not in the top 20 best Heavyweights.

    Outside the top 100 best fighters.
     
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  12. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

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  13. Jpreisser

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    Holyfield fought a bunch of top level Americans at cruiserweight and only one was in his backyard, the SD over Qawi. He didn't need hometown judging for that, either. Everyone else, including Qawi in the rematch, got knocked out. I'm not sure where judging comes into play here.
     
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  14. Smokin Bert

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    There are many divisions. Almost all of them more skilled than Heavyweight. The only notable exception being the lesser talented Cruiserweight. (Usyk's highest ranked division)
     
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  15. Reallymakesmethink

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    The holyfield disrespect is crazy
     
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