Oleksandr Usyk in the 70s

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Inspired by time travel themes...
    So on January 1, 1970, Oleksandr Usyk fought Chazz Witherspoon in the 70s.
    That fight wouldn't disrupt if FOTC happened, but what would happen afterwards?
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I started the Time Warp theme, I love it.
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    And you and "Joe Frazier turns pro in 1954"
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    Is not a problem. I also like such topics, if they are interesting.
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

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    Usyk yells, I Want Frazier, I Want Frazier.
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He would dominate the division without too much difficulty no one would be able to beat him imo, too big, skillful and tough while having a very good gas tank. Keep in mind for the era he would have a size advantage over pretty much everyone and for someone who's used to constantly fighting bigger dudes I think that would be a huge advantage.
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    I was not even a thought in 1954.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

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    Honestly I could see Usyk being the type of opponent that George Foreman’s people would want to stay away from. He had both the skills and tools that could potentially be a nightmare for Foreman.
     
  8. Richard M Murrieta

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    But in his armor, he would have had to possess massive stamina and an iron George Chuvalo like chin to survive and possibly beat prime George Foreman.
     
  9. ikrasevic

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    And the others: Ali, Norton, Frazier, Shavers, Lyle, later Holmes...?
    Young?
     
  10. Pat M

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    And/but...he is a lefty. He'd have a lot of problems getting fights. IF he could entice contenders into the ring, he'd have a huge advantage with his southpaw stance that most had never encountered, but the problem would be getting opponents to fight him. Ali did fight two lefties, Mildenberger and Dunn, but neither of them was in Usyk's class.

    I don't know where Usyk's 70s opponents could find decent southpaw sparring (Vic Brown, Dunn, Mildenberger?) to get ready for him. Another point in Usyk's favor is that he'd see nothing but orthodox fighters in the gym and as opponents. The 70s should be a nice time for a 6-3, 220 pound athletic, highly skilled, well conditioned, southpaw to be fighting... unless everybody refused to fight him.
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    That’s a good point. A lot of trainers and managers would have been afraid of him
     
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  12. ikrasevic

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    The 70s were not like the 90s and later...
    The Norton Vs Frazier fight didn't happen because they were friends (I know that version). And the Foreman vs. Shavers fight didn't happen. .
    In the 70s, there was not so much dodging of opponents.
    That can only mean that Usyk would be the absolute master of the 70s.
     
  13. themaster458

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    He'd beat him Foreman would not be able to bully him like he did other fighters in that era
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    I have to laugh at someone claiming Usyk would dominate an entire era based on having 5 Heavyweight fights. Who was noticeably pushed in a competitive fight by a faded fringe contender Chisora, and dropped like a sack of potatoes sucking air on a "borderline shot" by a Heavyweight not ranked in the top 10 in Dubois.

    But yeah lets go from that to the extreme of dominating the best Heavyweights of all time based on that small evidence amazing logic.
     
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  15. ikrasevic

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    The whole story can change very easily, if Fury knocks out Usyk (that's called - hype).
    I personally think that post FOTC Frazier would have a chance to beat Usyk.
    And I don't even know what to think about Young - help me :)
     
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