Oleksandr Usyk is clearly the best fighter of the 21st century uncontested.

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe. But its not topping Pac.
     
    tinman, May 10, 2025 at 9:01 AM
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  2. ToffeeCrisp

    ToffeeCrisp You don't play boxing banned Full Member

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    That's funny Adam TROLL.You call Fury a ''bum'' now. But before his fights with Usyk you were saying very different things, you were adamant Fury would beat Usyk...


     
    ToffeeCrisp, May 10, 2025 at 9:21 AM
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  3. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    “hE HAs12 WIns aGAinsT bums doe”

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: The pure delusion and stupidity is astounding on here sometimes. :lol: Oh well.

    Usyk’s awesome amateur run has to be taken into account. He accomplished in the ams what floyd could only dream of and cry about. IMO his world championship and Olympic Gold runs are legendary in themselves.

    Let me guess… Beterbiev is a “Bum” too?! lol :facepalm: :lol: :bash::headbash
     
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    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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  5. Eternal

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    One has to consider who was the most skilled and who had the physicality to back those skills up.

    Roy Jones jr competed in the 20th and the 21st century and was still prime at the beginning of the 21st.

    If Usyk, Floyd and Pac would all have been his height and his weight with an equally large frame then he would have beat all of them. Floyd and Pac would also have beaten and Usyk their size and Pac would have beaten Floyd if not for the size and age advantage. Therefore the way to rank these 4 men would be.

    1. Roy
    2. Pac
    3. Floyd
    4. Usyk

    I haven't thought too much about this but Crawford is also way better than Usyk and probably some other 21st century fighters also. Why bother making this ridiculous thread?
     
    Eternal, May 10, 2025 at 10:08 AM
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed
    I have pac ahead of Floyd too, as he beat the Mexicans and took more chances fighting at weights he had no business fighting at
     
    AdamT, May 10, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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  7. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh dear lord.
     
    HistoryZero26, May 10, 2025 at 10:22 AM
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  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmfao

    Rematching shot past prime coke head Tyson Fury, glass chinned bodybuilder Anthony Joshua and 70 IQ Daniel Dubois, doesn’t make you better than 8-division champion Manny Pacquiao who has beaten more HOF fighters than Usyk has beaten fighters worth even naming in the first place
     
    DaRealJT, May 10, 2025 at 10:34 AM
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is gibberish.

    And Jones was a proven PEDs cheat. Without chemical enhancement in an era of minimal testing, his "physicality" would have been significantly less.
     
    catchwtboxing, May 10, 2025 at 10:56 AM
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    he entered the abyss and came out the other side roaring. It was remarkable just as Fury getting up in round 12 was. God makes no mistakes. Praise jesus!

    There are a very few fighters who could have kept the composure Usyk did and remain fighting the same gameplan and pretty much keep the same approach that left him getting hurt in them rounds but Fury did slow and Usyk put his faith in the process. Most other men would have backed off in the following rounds which would have given Fury a breather and to control and easily win the rounds with his size.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I put it like this.

    Is Usyk greater than Floyd? Probably not.

    Is Usyk greater than Pac? Absolute **** no.
     
    tinman, May 10, 2025 at 11:50 AM
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  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Here is the difference

    When Usyk retires with 0 losses and someone says how come? There are no answers. He fought them all no catchweights or silly games. Not to be questioned. There is nothing to dispute.

    Floyd has retired with his 0 and when people ask how come? It's seen as a valid question because he has dodged, ducked, dived, diva'd ABC & D to some extent.

    If Tyson Fury was Floyd Mayweather he would have waited till 2027 to fight a 40 year old Usyk who ideally would have a loss to someone!
     
    miniq, May 10, 2025 at 12:04 PM
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Manny was a good little fighter but he got knocked out by street vendors and parking attendants in his prime, lost x 4 to JMM, including getting slept on his face for an eternity, lost to schoolteacher Jeff Horn, lost to Bradley, got schooled by Floyd, and he was clearly jacked out of his mind on that magic Manilla macaque juice
     
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  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, you need to go back to Duran/Ali to maybe beat Pac all time
     
    AdamT, May 10, 2025 at 12:10 PM
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Tyson fury was Floyd mayweather he would have eventually signed to fight Aj,instead of retiring to duck him
     
    AdamT, May 10, 2025 at 12:11 PM
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