Oleksandr Usyk is the best heavyweight since...

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Finish the sentence.

    I will say Lennox Lewis.

    What say y'all?
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Id agree with Lennox who was the last undisputed champion in boxing history.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah definitely the best since Lewis. Wlad was great due to his dominance but he had those early losses and he did lose to Fury and was unable to adapt like Usyk did. Vitali simply didn't do enough, partly due to injuries. So yeah Usyk the best heavyweight of the last 20 years.
     
  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Yes since Lewis. Wlad was a dirty fighter who got away from benefiting from poor referring. No way could he have been unbeaten if the refs didn't allow the excessive holding and clinching.
     
  5. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    Hard to judge actually. He didn't have Wlad's or Lewis' longevity at HW, but P4P he is clearly and FAR above both of them
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Since records began.
     
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  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Lewis without doubt.
     
  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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  10. TFP

    TFP Active Member Full Member

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    I think the Fury of 5 years ago was a good bit better than this version of Usyk. Of course we’ll never know how they’d compare peak for peak.
     
  11. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    TBH I am not sure Lennox would beat Usyk. Lennox never fought even slightly decent southpaw in his career, let alone a great one with elite skills, speed, excellent chin and highest possible ring IQ and adaptability. Also Lennox was never a bodypuncher, he always was a headhunter. And 37 y.o. Usyk is better than 37 y.o. Holyfield who had too many wars and slowed significantly at the time of Lewis-Holy unification. I really like Lennox, he is great boxer but I am not sure he would defeat Usyk

    p4p Usyk is miles ahead of Lennox without a doubt
     
  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lewis
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Easily the best since the Kilt brothers, and probably on their level too.
     
  14. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo
    The second greatest heavyweight since ali
     
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  15. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's the best since Wlad. He's better than Fury and Joshua.
    He doesn't have the dominant reign of Wlad in the division therefore I can't rate him over Wlad. 18 title defenses and unified. I know he only held 3 belts but that is just politics not ability. h2h Wlad also would of been a nightmare for Usyk as Wlad was well experienced with lefites and boxer movers.
    Usyk would be a nightmare for Lewis h2h. Lewis didn't face a single noteworthy southpaw in his career and the last former cruiser Lewis faced in Holyfield went 24 rounds with him and took some rounds off him. Holyfield was much easier to hit than Usyk and had nowhere near the stamina of Usyk. Usyk's movement and footwork would be befuddling. Lewis also didn't go to the body often which seems to be the mode of attack on Usyk.
    It's a bad matchup for Lewis. But I would still rate Lewis over Usyk, again much bigger body of work in the division.
    On a p4p sense Usyk is now number 1 and that's the highest a heavyweight has rated since Tyson.
    So there's a lot going on. Let him enjoy the victory and the historic achievement.
    Good night for the sport
     
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