Oleksandr Usyk Versus Mike Tyson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Sep 18, 2024.


Who wins?

  1. Usyk

    17.6%
  2. Tyson

    82.4%
  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I agree that Tyson would win but i wouldn't call Usyk feather fisted.

    Joshua lost once by a ko. Joshua, despite being knocked down, survived the hardest punches a huge hitter like Wladamir threw at him. Yes, Wlad was old but he hadn't lost his power. Apart from this, Joshua has beaten other notable punchers like Povetkin. Joshua does not have a glass jaw. One tko loss to an obese guy doesn't change that.

    Usyk wasn't trying to stop Joshua. He hurt Joshua in both fights but backed away as he is a cautious fighter and doesn't like to take unnecessary risks. But he definitely had the power to hurt and finish Joshua.

    Fury is a guy with exceptional recuperative abilities and Usyk hurt him more than any one before had. Again, a feather fisted guy wouldn't have done so. Usyk backed off in round 10 and was content just to outbox Fury rather than go for the ko but again, he had the power to do so.

    Now Tyson has a better chin than either Fury or Joshua and prime Tyson is faster and harder to hit than either of those guys. So i don't think Usyk can keep Tyson off him. But make no mistake about it, Usyk is not feather fisted. He has the power to tko 240-270 lb giant heavyweights. He just backs off when he has the guy hurt to avoid running into a big counter punch aka Ruiz Joshua 1.
     
  2. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    As impressive as Oleksandr Usyk is in today's Heavyweight Division, I will have to go with Mike Tyson in this one. I do believe it would be a good fight to watch, but my BF24-Bucks would be on Tyson.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    One of the easiest fantasy fights to have predicted.
     
  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course he could. Anybody fighting under 225 should be able to make cruiserweight. This is silly. Gassiev absolutely counts as a big puncher and is far closer in size to Tyson than AJ

    In Tysons day cruiser was 190 so Gassiev, Breidis are heavies by 1980s standards and approximately the same size as Holyfield
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll repeat it for the 10th time i'll put it in bold for you this time.

    "Tyson was Cruiserweight sized as a 14 year old"

    Hope that helps.
     
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  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And Holyfield beat Douglas weighing 208 the same as Usyk did in his cruiserweight fight

    If Usyks cruiser opponents fought Tyson they would have been considered heavyweights and Tyson would have received credit for beating them
     
  7. PunishingJab

    PunishingJab New Member Full Member

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    Tyson would knock out Usyk in the first round.

    That’s no disrespect to a really excellent fighter, he just wouldn’t have the chin to survive Tyson getting in close and firing off uppercuts and hooks upstairs and downstairs.

    And Tyson would probably handle Joshua Usyk and Fury on the same night.

    Best fighter ever, not all that close really.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally irrelevant to you trying suggest Tyson could boil down to 200 pounds.....no he couldn't give it a rest.
     
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  9. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Given Dubois just ko'd Joshua maybe that win should be held in higher regard for Usyk.

    Dubois is the first to stop Larena
    the first to stop Hrgovic
    first to stop Miller
    stopped Joshua quicker than anyone else
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson executes Aj and Dubois, both are literally tailor made for him, open as a barndoor, attempting to trade, poor chins, zero head movement loading up going straight lines etc etc etc

    The Bodybuilder from last night most likely would not have made it past the first round and if he did he would have been face down and out in the second………..Lewis and Bowe would have done a similar demolition job.
     
  12. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dubois may go on to do great things, can't write him off yet. Hard to say how Tyson does against someone like Breidis or Gassiev as they have never been stopped.

    Dubois took big shots from Hrgovic and Joshua, Larena is the only fight where he was hurt early
     
  13. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Breidis and Gassiev have never ever faced ANYBODY with Tyson's fire power.

    Both have ZERO quality wins at Heavy

    Hrgovic is a Nobody fringe contender

    Larena who ?

    Dubois got stopped by a jab.

    AJ got rolled by Butterbean version 2
     
  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Todays cruisers are closer in size to Tyson than top heavyweights so thats irrelevant. Douglas had never faced anyone with Tysons power prior to beating him and neither had Holyfield unless you count an ancient Foreman.
    Douglas didn't stop anyone of note beside Tyson himself so a bit hypocritical to say Dubois has a poor chin due to quitting against Usyk.
     
  15. NewChallenger

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    Tyson KO1

    Tyson hits Usyk in the body, Usyk calls it low tries to ask for a timeout, Mills Lane tells him to stop being a little ***** and he gets KTFO
     
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