Oleksandr Usyk vs Andy Ruiz

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, May 2, 2021.

Who wins

  1. Usyk Decision

    84.8%
  2. Usyk Knockout

    9.1%
  3. Ruiz Decision

    4.5%
  4. Ruiz Knockout

    1.5%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Safin

    Safin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nobody could seriously think that Rice Pudding Jr beats Usyk. That's hilarious.

    The pudding's only chance is if Usyk does a Glazkov and fecks his own knee or something.

    Usyk would make an absolute fool out of Rice Pudding Jr.

    The people who say Usyk is too small, at 6'3'' and 220lbs with visible abs, are completely dumb. If he was never a cruiser and had been hulking around with another 20lbs of fat, muscle and water on him from the start of his career nobody would be saying he was too small.
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how much are we betting?
     
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  3. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I would like to see this match up. Andy still have speed and power over Usyk. A true boxing fan knows u can't cancel out a fighter off of a subpar performance because Andy can come back and have a dominant performance next fight. I believe ring rust played a part in his fight. So I still favor him over Usyk who still hasn't proven himself at HW against a top 10 fighter.
     
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  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 No longer booted! Full Member

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    Wouldn’t it be funny if Usyk agreed to this fight, trained in secrecy and showed up at like 275lbs, even fatter than fat slob Ruiz (who actually looked much slimmer yesterday)! I’d **** my pants laughing and would go crazy if Fat Andy lost to Fatter Usyk!

    Seriously, I was disappointed by Ruiz last night. He came in slimmer and may be adjusting to the lighter weight. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t that skinny and still had a lot of beef. Maybe it was rust combined with a spirited effort from Arreola. Glad I didn’t bet that fight because I would have taken Andy in five.
     
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  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Usyk needs to retire and still: he had performed vs Chisora considerably better than Parker and I think even this current old Usyk version is better than Parker currently is and Chisora is not worse than White.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Ruiz beats him. If Ruiz sticks and koves like he did against Chisora i can definitely see him winning a decision. Ruiz definitely still has skill though.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    im sure of it. andy beats both versions ive seen at hw. unless usyk gets better as a hw, andy beats him.
     
  8. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Usyk is much bigger than Holyfield, he is bigger than a ped'd to the gills Holyfield lol

    I thought Gassiev was a big cruiser and then I saw him in the ring with Usyk and he looked small.

    Also Usyk is a legit 6ft3, many other fighters like Ruiz are not really their listed height.

    Ruiz is listed @ 6ft2.5 but clearly can't be more than 6ft1
     
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  9. Safin

    Safin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You want to be sure of it. The path you have taken to come to your conclusion is deeply flawed. Anyone with half a brain knows that boxers adapt to their opposition and that past performances only give an indication. Your calculation is incredibly limiting, but of course you are clearly biased for whatever reason.

    Did James Douglas show that he was going to spark out Mike Tyson? Did Hasim Rahman with Lewis? Did Corrie Sanders with Klitschko?

    ....

    Did Andy Rice Pudding Jr with Anthony Joshua?

    I've stood near Ruiz, but not Usyk. Usyk looks 6'3'', or very close. Ruiz is not over 6' flat, if that.
     
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  10. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Even Tyson Fury isn't as big as he's listed, looking at the guys he has fought he can't be 6ft 9
    Maybe earlier in his career he could have been, but he's @ max 6ft8 but more like 6ft7.5.

    Age shrinks people, I was a legit 6ft in my early 20's but now @ mid 30's im more like 5ft11.5 first thing in the morning when you are stretched out lol
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i explain my positions better than most. if you missed it, do some more reading. i believe i understand why each fight happens like it does, i can understand on that level. not right every time, but i really do like my odds.
     
  12. Safin

    Safin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're on my clueless list, bud. Anyone who thinks that Rice Pudding Jr stands a chance against Ruiz is having a serious laugh.

    It's one I'd like to see, just for the laugh, but I doubt it will happen. Ruiz will never have another big win, but he might beat one or two fringe sort of guys. He was crap before Joshua, and crap again after. This is the same guy who couldn't even wobble Liakhovich when he was practically on a zimmer frame.
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ofc he is skilled.
     
  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    what does being on this all important clueless list entail? is it a lifetime appointment or can i learn my way off of it? do i share the distinction with any posters of note, or are we just a bunch of nobodies? i want to see this list, cause i dont know how i feel about it yet.:buitre:
     
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  15. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is a technical guy. He just doesn't have the power to keep legitimate HWs off of him.

    He wasn't an overly powerful guy at CW.