Oleksandr Usyk vs Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Feb 3, 2021.


Who would take this bout

Poll closed Jan 4, 2023.
  1. Usyk UD

    47.1%
  2. Usyk KO/TKO

    30.0%
  3. Wilder UD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Wilder KO/TKO

    22.9%
  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mean level just by division? You really are sure that fight for example even with Tabiti is less dangerous than vs 39 y.o Pulev ?
    Not alone to talk about other CW guys.

    Nope. This slow version Dorticos or Briedis had been KTFOEed and this even with considering that Briedis is out of prime.



    God knows. CW top he had not old and in good shape guys, a lot with risky fights. If win on points, no shame there. He fought every one he had been given to fight with and they were not old unlike HW top kids. Mileage from this ofc had been impacted a lot.
    Fury might maul him in clinch.
    A.J is more versatile than Wilder.
    Wilder, despite more 1 punch power than A.J, is more predictable and more one handed fighter. Yeah, from these Wilder is more lucrative to fight with for Usyk.
     
  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is such a poor, recycled argument.

    Who was James Douglas' best win before battering Mike Tyson?

    Who was Andy Ruiz' best win before battering Anthony Joshua?

    Who was Tyson Fury's best win before beating Wladimir Klitschko?
     
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  3. Surrix

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    arguments about Usyk always were very poor and recycled.

    Usyk had fought in ammies, semi pro and pro ranks every one he had been given to fight with. Including guys evaded by other boxers and in their prime, like the same Briedis, yeah, Usyk BARELY and just slightly defeated Briedis in very close points in real.

    Usyk first his world tittle had won in Poland from polish boxer Glowacki, 30 y.o undefeated pro boxer in his prime with 26-0-0 record.
    This alone does deserve respect unlike old uncles beatups for " getting name on resume ".
     
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    Yes. There are two problems with the "hasn't beaten anybody" rhetoric.

    The fact that, as I've inferred in my previous post, progression doesn't always work in a linear fashion. Then there's the fact the division isn't exactly rife with quality down to the rank of 50. Those who are prospects will not want to compete against Usyk and the knock over jobs like Ustinov, that somehow have "name value" are useless, anyway, and the same people will say "he's only beaten Ustinov and Chisora".

    When someone has an agenda to push, they will always find a way to be unreasonable.
     
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    Of course no. Usyk really barely had defeated Briedis in close fight because he had better jabs.
    Might this be used against Usyk to call him pillow fisted and weak? This was prime Briedis not WBSS2 over the hill version, where still Dorticos was able to do with him really NOTHING.
    No one was capable to get Briedis down for count ever in the ring, not alone to bear in mind that he ( Usyk ) had real prime Glowacki 30 y.o in the ring, pretty fresh and mobile prime Glowacki. Glowacki does beat very hard for his size. Not alone Briedis, this then was capable to beat like Povetkin's 34-35 y.o not older versions. And Murat, tough like from stone, young and before get injured.
    Usyk had damn hard road to become undisputed not with old uncles beatup fights.
    Olympic champion, Undisputed pro boxing CW champion and The Ring Belt holder and Ali topthy winner : Usyk!
    Humble road warrior with humility and glance level deserving deep respect for his efforts alone. Undisputed without old uncles beatup.
    Iconic boxer Usyk.
     
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  6. Safin

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    This is the way I see it.

    I think a lot of boxing fans harbour biases. Joshua boxes old and/or useless "name" boxers like Takam, Molina, Martin, Breazeale, Ruiz, Pulev and they are labelled "top 10 contenders" and he is lauded for his "deep resume".

    One just has to laugh!