Oleksandr Usyk vs. Deontay Wilder.

Styles do make fights... As long as the gulf in class/levels isn't too much.

As far as Usyk and Wilder goes, Usyk would have way too much skill for Wilder and his style would cause him big problems even if their levels were close... It's a compounding factor, in this fantasy matchup.

Wilder would have no chance whatsoever.

 

People are underrating Wilder here I think.

If Wilder could catch Fury in 2018-2020, then he could catch Usyk IMO.

 

Really? Fury and Usyk are on completely different planets defensively. Especially the version Wilder fought.

 

Wilder does have chance of a ko....if and I mean IF he gets in a clean right hand.

My patented Boxing Match algorithm gives Wilder a 2% chance of a KO over Usyk.

 

Even if he caught him then what? Usyk laughs in the face of Wilder right hands.

 

Unless Fury has been overrated and overhyped since his return... Which I think he has.

Besides which, Fury was clearly unfit in 1 (and got caught when gassed) and was much more aggressive and open in 2 & 3.

I don't think Wilder would've been able to catch the Fury that fought Wlad, and he struggled massively with a pale imitation of that fighter in Fury 1 (until he gassed).

 

I'm not a fan of Wilder but styles do make fights.

Parker and Fury 2 came straight at Wilder and didn't allow him range or time to set up his right hand, plus both fighters are considerably heavier than Usyk.

Usyk would be boxing on the outside which makes Wilder more of a threat with his sniper like right hand at range.

Whilst I would of favoured Usyk I think style wise Wilder poses a bit more of a threat to Usyk as Usyk wouldn't be crowding him allowing Wilder opportunities to land his big bomb.

The thing is though is that even if Wilder did land the right hand would it be enough ? Usyk has a solid chin and did take some good shots off of Joshua who is a big puncher.

 

And let's not forget, Fury's been put on his back by a pillow fisted CW Cunningham, Usyk never has.

 

Oh dear God, even the best version of Wilder wouldn’t find Usyk in there. Usyk would be creating all sorts of angles and would box the ears off that one trick pony. Usyk would see that big right hand coming from miles away and would set so many traps that poor Wilder just wouldn’t be able to cope.

It’s not even a remotely close fight.

 

And an MMA guy on debut.

 

Well , 'styles make fights' stands for the theory everybody can beat everybody and skills / performance shown against opponent A do not give a fight prediction against opponent B .

We cannot say styles make fights and simulatny argue usyk would school wilder since he looked so bad against parker .

Either or but not as well as .

Imho styles makes fights is not very accurate and of course wilder,s poor performance against parker says alot that usyk would indeed school him .

 

Not really... It means styles make a difference - that if two fighters are the same level then style will win it - and if they're not then styles can make it closer, and sometimes even flip it.

Yes we can.

Because styles might have helped Parker a bit, but a performance THAT dominant is not just about styles, that's levels AND styles.

IMHO that's because you're using a weird definition of what "styles makes fights means"... The way you're using it, yes it'd not very accurate.

Wilder wasn't that poor, he was just Wilder - put into a difficult position by being up against a much higher standard opponent than he'd ever beaten who was using a style he didn't have a clue how to cope with.

Usyk is another level or two again - even a style advantage wouldn't save Wilder here because the gap in ability is way too wide for that.

 

Preach it!

 

If Wilder devised a game plan with Malik Scott to work the body like he did against Fury in the first round of their 3rd fight. I could see Wilder winning this fight.

 

I don’t think Wilder has the ability to land body shots consistently on Usyk. I just can’t see him ever beating Usyk, even a fresher version of him.