Oleksandr Usyk vs Joe Frazier

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Frazier vs Usyk - who would you take?

  1. Frazier

    113 vote(s)
    74.3%
  2. Uysk

    39 vote(s)
    25.7%
  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    This caused a very heated argument between my dad and my brother.

    Smokin' Joe is massively under appreciated but he'd also be pretty undersized in the current era with a listed height of 6ft that some believe to have been a generous accounting.

    So how would he fare against flavour of the month and arguable modern great Usyk who at 6'3 and 200lb+ would have a fair few advantages over Joe. So who you got and why?
     
  2. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Can Usyk move enough for joe Frazier ??? I’d fancy Usyk against Joshua, frazier is a movers worst nightmare as proven though
     
  3. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    I think Frazier is all wrong for Usyk.
    I think Usyks corner stops the fight in the 11th round
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd say the Frazier that beat Ali beats the Usyk that beat Breidis. Breidis had success with his aggression, he didn't do what many do vs Usyk and wait too long on the outside and get mesmerised by Usyk's jab and movement. Frazier would take it too him, relentless aggression and I don't see Usyk clinch, maul and manhandle like Foreman and Ali do, so he'd end up fighting at Frazier's pace if he can't sustain range.
     
  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol, Frazier 8:5 ahead at the time of this post.
    What a great poll to expose the delusional fools inhabiting the boxing fan base. Scary stuff.
    Not only is Usyk superior to Frazier in every single way, he also dwarfs him.
    Usyk by child's play.
     
  6. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I think Frazier would be harder for Usyk than AJ. He'd put on the pressure and match him for workrate. On the other hand Usyk is a very smart boxer with some super footwork. He'd certainly use his size against Frazier. I'm favouring Usyk without thinking much about the matchup.
     
  7. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Frazier, Usyk is hittable and with both fighters high work rate this would be spectacular but I’d be very surprised if Frazier didn’t win, too relentless for Usyk
     
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  8. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Frazier is an all time great heavyweight,Usyk is very much in the novice stage at the weigh.Mismatch, Frazier all day long
     
  9. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You could rationally pick Usyk to befuddle the often times crude operation of Frazier, but that's not how discussions like this go.

    Frazier stops him in the 14th round with a barrage of left hooks! Too tough, too golden!
     
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  10. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk is to green as a heavyweight right now to know what could happen, but I'd still fancy Frazier to break him down late.
     
  11. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    They are the same weight, Usyk boils down to Joes weight. Its no mismatch, its a style problem that frazier has over everyone ever at his weight(just over 200lb prime), unrivalled non stop aggression that only gets worse for the opponent as the fight progresses, but Usyk has all time great skills without a doubt. imo you have to be a major banger to get the better of frazier and early while hes not found his rhythm
     
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  12. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Usyk fought bigger men than Frazier also
     
  13. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier fought men a few pounds heavier than boxers like Gassiev or Briedis.
     
  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Joshua dwarfed Ruiz who isn't good enough to sniff Frazier's jock and it didn't mean a thing.

    Also, you claim that Usyk is better in every way than Frazier is what's delusional. Here's a few areas where he's not better;

    Power
    Workrate
    Stamina
    Experience

    Also, I'm not sure being 6'2 1/2 215 pounds with little punching power is going to be a game changer for a guy like Frazier
     
  15. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    It`s irrelevant that they weigh the same my point is Frazier is far more experienced fighting in the division Usyk is not
     
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